Having difficulty changing tire on trailer without air wrenc

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Having difficulty changing tire on trailer without air wrenc

Post by n1gzd » Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:59 am

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I am on the side of the road in northboro with trailer tire blowout. I am having difficulty removing lug nuts without air wrench. The wheel turns. I cant get enough weight on it to stop it from turning. Is there a way to force the brakes to stay on? I did not try pulling the safety switch .
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Re: Having difficulty changing tire on trailer without air w

Post by n1gzd » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:11 am

I am hopeful that i can find a person to step on the brakes

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Re: Having difficulty changing tire on trailer without air w

Post by rousespointer » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:15 am

Maybe the flat is turning because the other wheel is inflated which is holding the trailer weight (assuming you have two axle trailer...if not, just ignore this post !). If so, maybe take off the good wheel and put weight on the flat....maybe block trailer so you get enough weight on wheel to get lugs off but not too much weight to do damage.

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Re: Having difficulty changing tire on trailer without air w

Post by paultg » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:30 pm

In this video they break the lugs loose with the tire/rim on the ground so the wheel doesn't roll/spin:

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Re: Having difficulty changing tire on trailer without air w

Post by Grippy » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:48 pm

Can't you just use the emergency stop button on your brake controller?
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Re: Having difficulty changing tire on trailer without air w

Post by n1gzd » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:35 pm

All set. Fred ferguson came by and showed me some tricks. Will bring thick board to drive onto next time.

I wonder if i should have 10 ply tires instead of 8 .

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Re: Having difficulty changing tire on trailer without air w

Post by boltonite » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:50 pm

n1gzd wrote:... Will bring thick board to drive onto next time.
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...especially helpful if your jack cannot lift a loaded trailer (or you're lazy like me). Check trailer tire pressures, they tend to lose air and then overheat. Also check that lugs are not loose... or torqued to 1000 ft lbs (ditto for the tow vehicle).

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Re: Having difficulty changing tire on trailer without air w

Post by n1gzd » Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:05 pm

Thanks. Pressires always 65 torque 120. I check them often including this morning. If 8 ply d rated that came with the trailer is ok then the problem is that the tires are from china or trash junk in the street near where i keep it.
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Re: Having difficulty changing tire on trailer without air w

Post by grovefromnh » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:53 am

Your wheels are torqued to 120Ft/lbs? That's more than most cylinder heads. Try 80-85 ft/lbs.
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Re: Having difficulty changing tire on trailer without air w

Post by Stynger » Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:28 am

grovefromnh wrote:Your wheels are torqued to 120Ft/lbs? That's more than most cylinder heads. Try 80-85 ft/lbs.
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No wonder you had a hard time getting them loose. :shock:
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Re: Having difficulty changing tire on trailer without air w

Post by Chrispy » Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:04 pm

100-120 is the spec for the steel wheel 6-lug trailer wheels (the aluminum's are 85), the problem was just that due to complete deflation the wheel was spinning as the other wheel picked up the load.
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Re: Having difficulty changing tire on trailer without air w

Post by Stynger » Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:09 am

Thanks, Chris.

I didn't realize steel wheels were so high (mine are aluminum), or that spinning wheel thing. :?
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Re: Having difficulty changing tire on trailer without air w

Post by grovefromnh » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:49 am

Torque spec is due to the size of the lugbolt being torqued, not the wheel material.
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Re: Having difficulty changing tire on trailer without air w

Post by n1gzd » Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:52 pm

The manual specifies 120
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Re: Having difficulty changing tire on trailer without air w

Post by chaos4NH » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:57 pm

And if anyone reads the manual it is Rebecca! Comes from her pilot traing, I betcha!
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