Lotus Elise

DanDarcy · Post by **DanDarcy** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:09 am

Do you need a roll bar with a Lotus Elise ? :dontknow:

rajito · Post by **rajito** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:24 am

Yes. A rollcage made of 4" of solid lead is required. Also in the interests of safety, the "boot" should be filled with as many bowling balls as it can hold.

Raj

DanDarcy · Post by **DanDarcy** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:00 pm

Raj --- I need the roll bar hollow so I can put the Nitrus Oxcide in it.

Plus with my weight that equals all the bowling balls you could fit in the car

Is the Lotus in your class ? If it is you have such a great weight advantage over me, You could run a Cadillac Deville and it would weigh less than me in my Mustang

rajito · Post by **rajito** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:46 pm

I think the Elise is in ST1. It's probably trickier to drive at the limit than my pig, but a well driven one should own the class.

I went to a BMWCCA event last year, and I was chasing down an instructor in an Elise. The car is certainly not underpowered, especially when it peels out of turns faster than I was. He was also braking for the south chicane between 1 and 2

I don't think he was driving to its potential, since there were some turns where I did gain on him. His power steering belt did not break though

Stupid Subarus.

Raj

enjoythemusic · Post by **enjoythemusic** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:24 pm

rajito wrote:I think the Elise is in ST1. It's probably trickier to drive at the limit than my pig, but a well driven one should own the class.

Raj, have seen well-prepped little Loti (singular for Lotus?) do under 58 second laps at LRP. The guy was most impressive and am sure the turbo helps put more power down. With the new stock tweaked versions reaching the market, a few more small tweaks and..... DAYUM!

Tsurara · Post by **Tsurara** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:33 pm

enjoythemusic wrote:
rajito wrote:I think the Elise is in ST1. It's probably trickier to drive at the limit than my pig, but a well driven one should own the class.
Raj, have seen well-prepped little Loti (singular for Lotus?) do under 58 second laps at LRP. The guy was most impressive and am sure the turbo helps put more power down. With the new stock tweaked versions reaching the market, a few more small tweaks and..... DAYUM!

A Turbo Elise?

I don't even want to imagine how fast that would be.

rajito · Post by **rajito** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:58 pm

I think they do sell them - it's the 240R model:
http://www.elises.co.uk/models/s2_exige_240R/index.html

I contemplated a used Elise but considering how I drive, and considering how fragile an Elise is, decided to go with something a bit brawnier

By the way, Dan, what model is your Mustang? The 06 STi weighs in at 3350 lbs

Raj

Don P · Post by **Don P** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:22 pm

Amen on it being fragile. I was instructing with another group at WGI last year and as my student driver and I apexed T10 it looked like 4 cars had collided and were all over the track b4 T11.

Turns out it was ONE Elise that did the "I think I can save it" routine, hit the armco and must have exploded. Body sections (not pieces) all over the place with two folks sitting in the remaining frame. One, the owner turns out, was rather upset at the instructor who had been driving.

Anyhow should folks be thinking about tracking one (I have driven and ridden and they are fast and fun) consider adding protection.

Don

Tsurara · Post by **Tsurara** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:53 pm

Don P wrote:Amen on it being fragile. I was instructing with another group at WGI last year and as my student driver and I apexed T10 it looked like 4 cars had collided and were all over the track b4 T11.

Turns out it was ONE Elise that did the "I think I can save it" routine, hit the armco and must have exploded. Body sections (not pieces) all over the place with two folks sitting in the remaining frame. One, the owner turns out, was rather upset at the instructor who had been driving.

Anyhow should folks be thinking about tracking one (I have driven and ridden and they are fast and fun) consider adding protection.

Don

The place I am getting my car caged at has an Exige that the guy literally bought and dropped off to get caged without ever turning the key to drive it, minus loading it on the trailer.

The cage is an engineering masterpiece, trust me, but they intentionally made the wall thickness quite a bit more beefy than required. The Exige will be in with Firebirds and Camaros and such, I don't even want to imagine what happens if it would get hit.

DanDarcy · Post by **DanDarcy** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:34 pm

You guys scare me

I was thiking of a Caterham (Lotus 7) But this Elise came by and I couldn't refuse it. I am a sucker for good deal.

I would like to try S2000 on the track but don't want to cut up the interior for a roll bar (car is perfect) , plus I don't fit in it . The Elise I can barely fit in now, so if I had to cage it -- no room for Me

Plus it has the soft top not the removeable hard panel. I guess I will stay with the Mustang and let Raj woomp my behind, By the way Raj my Mustang weights 3720# on the NHIS scales without me (250#) but with a half tank of fuel

DanB · Post by **DanB** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:43 pm

I'm pretty sure the Elise shouldn't need a roll bar, never been a requirement (afaik!) in COM for targa-roof cars like T-top/removable roof Corvettes, 914s, 911 targas, etc. etc.

DanB · Post by **DanB** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:43 pm

Oh yeah, how good is a "good deal" on one o' those?!

tres

f'sho!

rajito · Post by **rajito** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:54 pm

Holy cow, 3720! I'm just quoting the published curb weight for my car. I'll try it out on the NHIS scales and see what it does

Raj

Tsurara · Post by **Tsurara** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:04 pm

rajito wrote:Holy cow, 3720! I'm just quoting the published curb weight for my car. I'll try it out on the NHIS scales and see what it does

Raj

3745 with Raj in it.

THE ULTIMATE DRIVER!

tmak26b · Post by **tmak26b** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:45 pm

enjoythemusic wrote:
rajito wrote:I think the Elise is in ST1. It's probably trickier to drive at the limit than my pig, but a well driven one should own the class.
Raj, have seen well-prepped little Loti (singular for Lotus?) do under 58 second laps at LRP. The guy was most impressive and am sure the turbo helps put more power down. With the new stock tweaked versions reaching the market, a few more small tweaks and..... DAYUM!

The turbos on the Lotus have more problems than benefits as the factory ECU is way too complicated. I havent seen any trouble free turbo Lotus running around yet. My stock Z was making more power than that thing without smelling like gas too.

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