Summit : Fuel? Garages?
Summit : Fuel? Garages?
Hi all,
Are there garages at Summit, and will they be available to us?
Is UNLEADED RACE GAS available at or near the track?
Thanks!
-Michael
Are there garages at Summit, and will they be available to us?
Is UNLEADED RACE GAS available at or near the track?
Thanks!
-Michael
MTCampbell - #13
There are no garages at Shenandoah. Sometimes a fuel truck is available in the paddock, at 4 or more bucks a gallon for the good stuff. The nearest gas is about 10 minutes away if you head towards Williamstown (I think it is Williamstown, or is it Charlestown) I could be wrong about the town name, but there is no gas station adjacent to the track at all.
Troy Velazquez
#5 T50
#5 T50
Re: SP
No garages. But Shenandoah has quite a bit of paved paddock area. Try to find a paved space because if it rains you are going to find out about red clay mud!!
Don't know what you mean by 'Unleaded race gas'.
93-94 octane auto fuel is available at several stations about 15 minutes from the track.
Go out the main gate and head right on the S.P.-Charles Town Road.
Left over the RR tracks in Summit onto Leetown Road to rte 51 in Inwood.
Fuel at that intersection or for better prices turn left and go to the Sheetz mega station up by I-81.
Best Regards - Bill Miskoe
No garages. But Shenandoah has quite a bit of paved paddock area. Try to find a paved space because if it rains you are going to find out about red clay mud!!
Don't know what you mean by 'Unleaded race gas'.
93-94 octane auto fuel is available at several stations about 15 minutes from the track.
Go out the main gate and head right on the S.P.-Charles Town Road.
Left over the RR tracks in Summit onto Leetown Road to rte 51 in Inwood.
Fuel at that intersection or for better prices turn left and go to the Sheetz mega station up by I-81.
Best Regards - Bill Miskoe
Considering the number of people who will be going to Shenandoah, parking on the paved area shouldn't be a problem.
I've taken to bringing in my own race gas rather than pay track prices. I'm mixing the race gas with 93/94 octane that I get at the local stations though. Unless you're bringing along a 55 gallon drum, that may not work for you if you are using 100% race gas.
I've taken to bringing in my own race gas rather than pay track prices. I'm mixing the race gas with 93/94 octane that I get at the local stations though. Unless you're bringing along a 55 gallon drum, that may not work for you if you are using 100% race gas.
-Keith-
SPB116
SPB116
Thanks for the information!
The fuel situation is almost too good to be true - so I called the track (could have done this before, but I didn't expect to get an easy answer - I was wrong, she was very helpful) and confirmed that there is indeed unleaded 100 octane available, self serve, bring credit card; and that they don't run out of it (happened to me at LRP once).
So, I'll bring an Easy-Up and some water proof boxes and some empty fuel jugs.
Thanks a lot, guys, Michael
ST-2 #13
1.8t GTI
The fuel situation is almost too good to be true - so I called the track (could have done this before, but I didn't expect to get an easy answer - I was wrong, she was very helpful) and confirmed that there is indeed unleaded 100 octane available, self serve, bring credit card; and that they don't run out of it (happened to me at LRP once).
So, I'll bring an Easy-Up and some water proof boxes and some empty fuel jugs.
Thanks a lot, guys, Michael
ST-2 #13
1.8t GTI
MTCampbell - #13
Hi Mik,
I'd answer that Q. in a private email, but someone might think I had something to hide!
I blend 93 and 100 octane because... ready?....here it comes....Dick Shine (Shine Racing Services) told me to!
He also told me to do it with my stock, normally aspirated 1.8 litre GTI; and, for that matter, with my Yamaha FZR 400 race bike, too.
I ask him "why, Guru?"
But the answer is sometimes shrouded in the mystery of The East.
"But, Sensai, they [the cars] have knock sensors!"
"Yes, Grasshopper, but the sensors sense Knock, therefore the engine is experiencing detonation. Detonation Bad."
"But Master, the race bike..? No one else is using race gas..."
"Just do it!"
"A thousand apologies, Sensai"
And I leave it at that.
You gotta' figure that my chipped 1.8turbo motor is making some pretty high combustion pressures, and when flogged around a race track it gets pretty hot, so detonation is always a threat, and the knock sensor retards the ignition...right? - so you are also losing potential horsepower. Seems reasonable. I'm embarrassed that I don't really know, but my Guru doesn't always fill in the blanks. Yet I follow him blindly, for he is my master.
Will you be at Summit?
-Michael
Silver '02 VW GTI 1.8t
I'd answer that Q. in a private email, but someone might think I had something to hide!
I blend 93 and 100 octane because... ready?....here it comes....Dick Shine (Shine Racing Services) told me to!
He also told me to do it with my stock, normally aspirated 1.8 litre GTI; and, for that matter, with my Yamaha FZR 400 race bike, too.
I ask him "why, Guru?"
But the answer is sometimes shrouded in the mystery of The East.
"But, Sensai, they [the cars] have knock sensors!"
"Yes, Grasshopper, but the sensors sense Knock, therefore the engine is experiencing detonation. Detonation Bad."
"But Master, the race bike..? No one else is using race gas..."
"Just do it!"
"A thousand apologies, Sensai"
And I leave it at that.
You gotta' figure that my chipped 1.8turbo motor is making some pretty high combustion pressures, and when flogged around a race track it gets pretty hot, so detonation is always a threat, and the knock sensor retards the ignition...right? - so you are also losing potential horsepower. Seems reasonable. I'm embarrassed that I don't really know, but my Guru doesn't always fill in the blanks. Yet I follow him blindly, for he is my master.
Will you be at Summit?
-Michael
Silver '02 VW GTI 1.8t
MTCampbell - #13
I blend my own fuel too. I mix 20% 110 with 93, and according to a mixing chart, that gives me about 96.5 octane. Even thought my machinist assures me that my engine (10:1 compression ratio, aluminim head, carburated, and static timing) will not suffer detonation on pump gas, in race conditions. I just feel better (especially with E10) having a slightly higher octane number. Plus race fuel gives that nice smell
Here is a link to an interesting article about octane and compression ratio.
http://www.diabolicalperformance.com/hotrodoctane.html
Jonathan Whorf
900 Monte Carlo PA
Here is a link to an interesting article about octane and compression ratio.
http://www.diabolicalperformance.com/hotrodoctane.html
Jonathan Whorf
900 Monte Carlo PA
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Beware the alcohol
With the introduction of varying amounts of ethanol in New England gas beware the preignition. Fuel pressure needs to be increased but you never know how much. I recommend 100 octane VP Fuel unleaded. No alcohol.
Bruce Allen
The Greased Shadow
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"It's all about the fast lap"
Hey Michael,
There was a rule modification this year...
Does your aftermarket chip maintain stock boost levels?
-Carl
There was a rule modification this year...
I'm figuring on getting last place in my "ST2" Miata anyhow, but I gotta ask this question as your friendly competitor,B. In cars using computers, software or hardware replacement or changes of the factory ECU is permitted. Ignition coil may be upgraded. Any ignition may be used as long as the stock spark trigger (distributor) is used. Forced induction cars must use stock boost levels."
Does your aftermarket chip maintain stock boost levels?
-Carl
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