Rules pages 55-56 TIRES

Questions, comments, and discussions concerning COMSCC rules.

Moderators: Boondocker850, blindsidefive0

User avatar
DanDarcy
Speed Racer
Speed Racer
Posts: 764
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:59 am
Location: Belchertown, Mass.

Re: Rules pages 55-56 TIRES

Post by DanDarcy » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:02 pm

Maybe we should classify tires by UTG rating only especially since the same tire on a different car nets different results. It is easy get too carried away
Dan D'Arcy
Lotus Exige Cup Car #069 SU
Lotus Elise #310 SD
Chevron B64 Formula SU
http://www.allpowersales.com/

SandyClam
Fast Lapper
Fast Lapper
Posts: 49
Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:16 pm

Re: Rules pages 55-56 TIRES

Post by SandyClam » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:28 pm

The only problem with that, Dan, is that the rating is arbitrary. Otherwise, I'd agree 100%.

I have an idea; I will volunteer to be the club's test mule. If COM provides a set of every tire worth considering, and works with Fred to get time at Palmer, I will run back to back to back sessions and quantify the tires. I know it's a lot to ask of me and the Shell... but as a long standing member of the club, I feel that I owe it to the membership to undertake this burden. We can start with whatever tires the Board deems most important, and go from there. I'll even pony up the gallons upon gallons of gas I consume to undertake the testing. Call it a Festivus miracle! Who's with me?

User avatar
DanDarcy
Speed Racer
Speed Racer
Posts: 764
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:59 am
Location: Belchertown, Mass.

Re: Rules pages 55-56 TIRES

Post by DanDarcy » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:44 am

WOW ! Such selfless dedication to the Club. :D But you shouldn't have to provide your own fuel Ryan. The Palmer Track has their own fuel truck now, you could just raid that.
UTG rating is some what arbitrary but it is a statement from the manufacturer as to how fast the tire will wear. The lower the UTG, the quicker the wear which means the softer the tire(stickier). I have noticed over the years that once you get to a UTG rating of less than 100 it doesn't seem to make much difference, heat cycles and car setup seem to make more of a difference.
I still think setting tire points by UTG is the best way.
Dan D'Arcy
Lotus Exige Cup Car #069 SU
Lotus Elise #310 SD
Chevron B64 Formula SU
http://www.allpowersales.com/

offcamber09
Speed Racer
Speed Racer
Posts: 1014
Joined: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:44 pm
Location: East Kingston, NH
Contact:

Re: Rules pages 55-56 TIRES

Post by offcamber09 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:13 am

UTQG tire grading is done by each manufacturer. It is a fair comparison to tires within the same manufacturer, but not very accurate between manufacturers. We've even seen some questionable tread ware ratings that seemed to be for the sole purpose of making a tire legal in a national class. I'm not in favor of this grading system.
Scott Rosnick
#09 BMW 318ti-6

TXBDan
Speed Setter
Speed Setter
Posts: 110
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:47 pm
Location: Wakefield, MA

Re: Rules pages 55-56 TIRES

Post by TXBDan » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:58 pm

With the new tire points assessments, is anyone dropping from race tires to street tires?
Dan Durusky
Mazda RX8

Dtangard
Speed Racer
Speed Racer
Posts: 351
Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:26 pm
Location: Groton, MA

Re: Rules pages 55-56 TIRES

Post by Dtangard » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:51 am

Hi Dan. I'm looking to run street tires this year because of the new points assessments.
TXBDan wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:58 pm
With the new tire points assessments, is anyone dropping from race tires to street tires?
Derek
#01 T40
1995 Miata

peejay
Rookie Racer
Rookie Racer
Posts: 51
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:49 am

Re: Rules pages 55-56 TIRES

Post by peejay » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:25 am

Dtangard wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:51 am
Hi Dan. I'm looking to run street tires this year because of the new points assessments.
TXBDan wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:58 pm
With the new tire points assessments, is anyone dropping from race tires to street tires?
O'rly? Still T40 though?
PJ A
1996 Miata
T30 91

paultg
Speed Racer
Speed Racer
Posts: 1166
Joined: Wed May 24, 2006 9:28 pm

Re: Rules pages 55-56 TIRES

Post by paultg » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:15 pm

peejay wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:25 am
Dtangard wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:51 am
Hi Dan. I'm looking to run street tires this year because of the new points assessments.
TXBDan wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:58 pm
With the new tire points assessments, is anyone dropping from race tires to street tires?
O'rly? Still T40 though?
My guess is that his car on street tire is a high T30 car.. :D
Paul G.
#12

peejay
Rookie Racer
Rookie Racer
Posts: 51
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:49 am

Re: Rules pages 55-56 TIRES

Post by peejay » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:41 am

paultg wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:15 pm
peejay wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:25 am
Dtangard wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:51 am
Hi Dan. I'm looking to run street tires this year because of the new points assessments.

O'rly? Still T40 though?
My guess is that his car on street tire is a high T30 car.. :D
DOH! :x
PJ A
1996 Miata
T30 91

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Amazon [Bot] and 1 guest