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Re: Pucker up! We're going to MOSPORT!

Post by WillM » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:27 pm

dradernh wrote:If it's dry, I expect Fred Ferguson will blow the PC record away by something north of 10 seconds.
I'd guess 16-20 seconds!
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Post by dradernh » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:37 pm

WillM wrote:
I'd guess 16-20 seconds!
20 seconds would have him running with top GT cars, so that's probably out of reach, but I think his power-to-weight will allow him to run in the high 1:20s. This is based on guesses of 2175# on-track & 320 RWHP.

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Post by boltonite » Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:20 pm

dradernh wrote:Fred, are you there - what are you looking for?
I'm looking for enough rubber to last 2 days.
I'm looking for a ton of seat time at my favorite track.
I'm looking for a car lighter than a miata with twice the power.

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Post by dradernh » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:03 am

boltonite wrote: I'm looking for enough rubber to last 2 days.
I'm looking for a ton of seat time at my favorite track.
I'm looking for a car lighter than a miata with twice the power.
Isn't that bomb already lighter than a Miata? An LS3 480/376 crate motor will get you 2X Will's HP for a moderate price (compared to German iron anyway); after getting destroyed at a NASA TT, I'm thinking a Chevy short block is the way to go for lots more power. I get all shivery just thinking about 400 ft-lbs pushing me around the longer tracks. :P
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Re: Pucker up! We're going to MOSPORT!

Post by StephanAlfa » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:08 am

boltonite wrote:
dradernh wrote:Fred, are you there - what are you looking for?
I'm looking for enough rubber to last 2 days.
I'm looking for a ton of seat time at my favorite track.
I'm looking for a car lighter than a miata with twice the power.
Fred:
I am parting with my current Hoosier R6 tires (225/40/17) and getting fresh Kumho V710.
If you want you can have them.
Date stamp is 0508 but there is some grove lines still showing.
If you have a spare set of rims there can be the extra rubber for more track time you'd be looking for.
Let me know (pm me)
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Re: Pucker up! We're going to MOSPORT!

Post by boltonite » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:51 pm

It was a tongue in cheek post (I have plenty of tires, my M3 is already way lighter than a spec miata, and I already expect to find a ton of track time with COM at Mosport (now Canadian Tire Motorsports Park - Eh!?!)

And you don't need 400ft lbs to get the shivers, just keep your right foot planted cresting T2 and you'll be floating on air or wetting your nomex. I've done both.

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Post by dradernh » Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:51 pm

boltonite wrote:just keep your right foot planted cresting T2
I don't think so - that's way too far into "Don't try this at home, kids!" territory for me.
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Post by WillM » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:00 pm

boltonite wrote: And you don't need 400ft lbs to get the shivers, just keep your right foot planted cresting T2 and you'll be floating on air or wetting your nomex. I've done both.
LOL!

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ITEM_______________________________________________ STATUS
I'm looking for enough rubber to last 2 days._____________________ DONE!
I'm looking for a ton of seat time at my favorite track.____________ DONE!
I'm looking for a car lighter than a miata with twice the power._____ DONE!
I'm looking for someone to clean my soiled nomex._______________ TBD!
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Post by StephanAlfa » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:53 am

Foot planted on T2: hummm... giving me ideas, but no downforce? Here, like other places in other tracks the trick it NOT to lift once you are "committed".
From there it's a blast up to braking of 5a.
How about foot planted on T-1 Like the AMLS does? There you need downforce (Will tried that one once, eh? :shock: )

You can wet your nomex anytime ... problem is when "number 2" becomes present, THAT is the scary part ... :lol:
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Post by WillM » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:06 am

StephanAlfa wrote: How about foot planted on T-1 Like the AMLS does? There you need downforce (Will tried that one once, eh? :shock: )
Yes, I once took the Subaru line through T1. I think you need massive down force likely helps. That and either tires wide enough to bridge the groove on the outside edge of the exit curbing, or to not drift a tire there to begin with. :oops: I should have left that last inch of track unused..!
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the trouble with downforce

Post by brucesallen » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:36 am

the trouble with downforce is that it creates drag. And then you need more power! Or your top end speed suffers.
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Re: Pucker up! We're going to MOSPORT!

Post by Chrispy » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:27 pm

Programmable active aero is the answer to that.
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Re: Pucker up! We're going to MOSPORT!

Post by savage217 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:53 pm

^^^^

F1 Active Aero FTW!
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Re: Pucker up! We're going to MOSPORT!

Post by WillM » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:54 pm

savage217 wrote:^^^^

F1 Active Aero FTW!
Interestingly enough, as I was skidding across the grass bounding toward the wall I thought to myself "I'm totally F-Duct".
Or something like that.

But hey, that was years before the F-duct appeared in F1...!
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Re: Pucker up! We're going to MOSPORT!

Post by dradernh » Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:28 pm

brucesallen wrote:the trouble with downforce is that it creates drag. And then you need more power! Or your top end speed suffers.
Chrispy wrote:Programmable active aero is the answer to that.
Indeed it is, and it's available locally, too: http://www.aeromotions.com.

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Mario Bonacorsi was up there last week, and had these specifics to offer regarding changes to the track surface since last year:

1 - They did put some cold pack asphalt on the end of the curbs.
2 - There is now a small bump between T9 and T10 due to the new tunnel that was installed. You need to be careful not to let it upset the car heading for the front straight.

In response to a question, Mario also said he didn't notice any bump in T2. My recollection is that there's a bump just over the crest of T2 that, if you're fiddling with your line as you cross over it at speed, might well make for a very exciting end to your day.
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