Car Classification Questions

[JT]

Hi all, I'm a new COMSCCer and I have a couple of questions.<br>
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I will be attending the September NHIS event. I will only be there for the Driver Training day (finances prohibit competition at this time). I believe that my car falls into the SSB category, but I'd like to be sure.<br>
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I have a 1998 Integra RS, modified thusly:<br>
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Intake<br>
205/50-15 wheel and tire combo (stock is 195/60-14, and I believe 195/55-15s were optional)<br>
3-pt. shock tower brace<br>
Short Shifter w/bushings<br>
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I don't think most of these mods would bump into another class; the only questionable ones being wheels and tires.<br>
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I hope this is in the correct forum, and not too stupid...thanks for your time!

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[Mark Swinehart]

The expert on car classification would be Brad Pelletier. Brad is the Chief Steward and Rules Chair.<br>
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My opinion would be that your car would be moved from Showroom Stock to Street Stock due to the body stiffeners and the after market shifter.<br>
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The only changes allowed to your car are the specific modifications spelled out in the rules for each classification. Generally if it isn't listed as allowable - you can't do it.<br>
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Since you don't plan to Time Trial I doubt if anyone would complain about your car classification.<br>
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See you on the 20th.

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[JT]

OK, thanks. I was hoping that since I wasn't competing it wouldn't matter too much.<br>
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Can't wait to see y'all there.... <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->

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[DennisC]

JT<br>
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Showroom stock classes are just that - showroom stock. Your wheel and tire upgrade alone bumps you to Street Stock (not to mention the other goodies). Sorry for the bad news.<br>
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DennisC

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[JT]

Oh, I see. Well, I don't consider Street Stock to be a bad thing, I just wanted to be sure of my classification.

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[JT]

OK, one more question: are stock lap and shoulder belts admissible in Street Stock? The rules state that "Y-type" shoulder restraints are OK for Showroom. It doesn't say that four or five point harnesses are <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>required</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> in Street, just recommended. I just want to be sure, thanks again....

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[Mark Swinehart]

The way I interpret the rule is that stock belts are permissible in Showroom and Street Stock. If you add an after market shoulder belt in Street Stock it cannot be a "Y" type.<br>
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No matter your preference, the drivers and passengers (instructors) restraints must be the same.<br>


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[Crusin]

I just reveiwed the rules and note two confusing issues.<br>
The first is in regards to the types of restraints. To paraphrase the rules:<br>
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A 5 point harness is required in Prepared and SP. A 5 point is STRONGLY suggested for SS and ST. A "Y" type shoulder harness is allowed is SS. No mention is made of a mandatory requirement for ST for either type.<br>
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The second issue involves tires. Now I will post this and either duck or run like hell.<br>
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The SS rules state the tires must be of "as delivered" construction and DOT legal.<br>
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ST and SP rules simply state that the tires must be DOT legal.<br>
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There is no mention of a tire requirement in Prepared meaning it is open to real race tires. But is it also open to recaps with the cord showing? <br>
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The "as delivered construction" phrase is only included in the SS class. The could be interpreted as meaning SS must run street tires as delivered.<br>
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Think I will now go out a polish my Kumho's with a little WD40 to increase the shine while the arrows fly.<br>
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Lee

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[comsccAdmin]

Belts: stock belts are acceptable in SS and ST. This is different from years<br>
past when ST required harnesses.<br>
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Tires:<br>
SS "as delivered construction" tire rule these days means that all SS cars must <br>
run radials. Note that Hoosier made a bias-ply race tire for a while (they may still), <br>
so they would not be legal in SS.<br>
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ST and SP cars could run a bias-ply tire as long as they are DOT legal.<br>
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Prepared cars can run any tire that passes tech.<br>
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Section VI.A.1 of the rulebook specifically outlaws retreads/recaps for all classes.<br>
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Self-preservation should dictate not running tires with cord showing!!<br>
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-Herb<br>
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[COMtech]

To add to what Herb said, I have a set of DOT Hoosier bias ply tires, and though I haven't run them yet, I'll probably do so at some point just to see what they're like. THe only advantage I can see is thet they are very light, even lighter than the Hoosier radials.<br>
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Kevin

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