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Post by chaos4NH » Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:39 pm

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subsonic wrote:I ... can't wait. I can't believe I am going to get on that track,

Also, I am trying to reach Joe Lu... something about transmission oil for my car.
PM'd you. Just got back from the land of the blondes and pickeled herring. 8)
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Post by StephanAlfa » Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:20 pm

Just got back from the land of the blondes and pickeled herring
And smoked eel (paaling), great Alfa clubs, great Indonesian food. Land of Amstel and Heineken :wink:
Most of you think I and a mix Brazilian/Canadian but my parents are Dutch, I speak the lingo and know the culture...
Well... never mind... someone was trying tpo reach Joe and of course he has busy in the "benetherlands..."
Sam.... spare your stories when we meet as Mosport 8)
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Post by mr2sc » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:36 pm

breakaway500 wrote:Here is a review I read off of Orbits about the HJ motel in Bowmanville;

"We were totally dissatisfied with our rooms, room service and resturant: we had none . The rooms were dirty and one of ... the "beds" was broken down like the box spring was broken totally on one side, I really wish I would have taken a picture of it ,cigarette burns in bed spread ,holes in the walls,naked pictures of Hillary C. in the bathroom...I cannot elaborate enough to explain how bad it really was. We have stayed in a lot of motels over the past ten years and this was the worst we have ever exprienced , we had been so excited about our trip and had looked forward to a great relaxing time what a let down . I appologize for being so rude but I would sure hope this would not happen to anyone else ."

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darn! I thought they cleaned up my room after I checked out :wink:
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Post by TroyV » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:02 pm

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TroyV wrote: I may try and move to SPC with an S2000. Those are probably cheaper to maintain than an E30 M3. :)
Eh! That's only going for the low-hanging fruit! Try waging the battle with a Miata, think of the money you'll save on tires, brakes, and shelving units (no trophies to store!). :wink:

How's this for hanging fruit? :)

http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=19967
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Post by breakaway500 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:09 am

Will you be happy driving a car with a narrow powerband after driving a torque monster? 8)
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Post by chaos4NH » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:20 am

breakaway500 wrote:Will you be happy driving a car with a narrow powerband after driving a torque monster? 8)
I know the question was for Troy, but I ask myself the same thing!
305 lbft of TQ to 100 (or so)?
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Post by breakaway500 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:00 am

I think Troys car even makes more than 305tq. :wink:
However it's not just the peak numbes that are critical.
Having that torque available from 3-7k rpms is a huge factor in overall performance.
I could just imagine the Miata with the Cobra powerplant... :shock:

An FFR Challenge Cobra with a Terminator drivetrain would be interesting... :twisted:
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Post by TroyV » Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:15 am

Not to continually move this thread off topic, but last year I drove Mick's car for the open session at Tremblant. With some time I could have easily matched my lap times in the mustang, and I didn't feel the want for more HP.....though I think I'd really have to grow a set of balls to match my lap times this year with his car.

I suspect an S2000 would be roughly the same in that respect. Assuming I can carry more speed in the turns with the lighter machine, I'm thinking I won't be too disappointed.

btw: The Cobra makes monster torque....about 475 lb/ft of torque at peak, and never under 400 from just under 2k to just under 6k.

In the hands of a better driver, I'm sure the car would be amazing.

....now if I can keep from popping another head gasket..... :(
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Post by breakaway500 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:13 am

Hey,I started the thread;who cares if it goes off topic? Not me.

4cyl cars are a lot of fun. :D Less can be more;

Momentum becomes your friend.Less wasted energy.

Much less wear and tear on all components....and less components that usually cost....less!

Less fuel needed too.

..and easier to tow.

or push... :shock:

As far as better drivers...isn't that what we all aspire to become? :wink:

Isn't Micks E30 a 6? Those make a lot more torque than a n/a 4.


However,I still like the big ole honking V-8's :twisted:
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Post by brucesallen » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:30 pm

Mick's M3 is a 4 banger
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Post by breakaway500 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:38 pm

I wasn't sure, as he is amazingly fast and I have not looked under the hood.:shock:

I read the early M3's could be had with either a 4 or 6.

all the more reason to consider a 4cyl. track car

Ask any formula driver. :wink:
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Post by Mick » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:17 pm

1st gen M3's (e30 1988-1991) were only available with a 4 cylinder. Originally with a 2.3L, then later an Evolution version with a 2.5L for Europe only.

The US 2.3L made 192 hp, 170 lb/f
The Euro 2.5 made 220 hp, 181 lb/ft

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Post by breakaway500 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:20 pm

I was confusing the other E30 chassis with the M3. Always learning.
What does your car weigh, Mick?
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Post by Mick » Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:14 pm

2650 lb last time I checked. I may be just under 2600 now.

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Post by TroyV » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:47 pm

You got 50 pounds out of there? Awesome.....you probably stopped eating bacon too huh?

Love that bacon... :)
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