00 Focus SE sedan. with mods...ST-4?

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00 Focus SE sedan. with mods...ST-4?

Post by breakaway500 » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:08 pm

'00 Focus Se 4dr. sedan,

-2.0L stock Zetec, Powerworks Supercharged(235whp.)

-Fidanza light flywheel,Centerforce DFD clutch,Torsen diff,stock 3.82 gears.

...4-1 Aftermkt header/HPcat,Magnaflow exhaust

-stock size Focus wheels,V710 tires (215/40/16)

-4 wheel factory SVTF disc setup

-H&R race springs,sways and KYB AGX struts/shocks.

Car passes Ma. emissions and safety inspection and is street driven/registered (with Azenis)

ST4?

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Post by offcamber09 » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:50 pm

Hate to be the bearer of bad news- but that sounds like a SP car. Is the Torsen stock and/or is the gear ratio stock? Also, the flywheel is not a ST permitted mod as far as I know.
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Post by offcamber09 » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:57 pm

Just looked at the rules and the diff is not an issue as long as the ratio is stock. The flywheel is the killer for sure. Even if the car is a ST car- it would be bumped up to at least ST3 because of the blower.
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Post by breakaway500 » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:47 pm

Thanks for the help. Why is that bad news? Aren't SP cars faster? :lol: Gear ratio is stock. So,SPB?

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Post by offcamber09 » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:51 pm

breakaway500 wrote:Thanks for the help. Why is that bad news? Aren't SP cars faster? :lol: Gear ratio is stock. So,SPB?
SP= roll bar and fire suit required. Not bad things, just not found in most streetable cars. I would think SPB.
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Post by chaos4NH » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:44 am

I think SPB. The forced induction will be the thing that moves it to Street Prepared. ST requires stock motor induction, although the header, and ECU can be changed out.
If that is the case, get rid of the stock rims. Go to largest rim/tire combo that fit in the fender rule.
It will be a tough class to run in. There will be some modded Subie Turbo Legacy's, Modded WRX's, etc.
But, if you want to just have fun, it sounds like an interesting machine.
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Post by breakaway500 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:29 am

Is there any class I can run in with the car "as is" where a roll bar is not required? Is the addition of the blower the key to it being placed in SP class? I wanted to use it as a back up car for rainy days or a main car failure.

I do have a Miata Mazdaspeed that has a few mods (Intake,muffler,H&R springs)Has a Boss Frogg Double Maxx roll cage.I suppose I could use instead. What clas would that fall in?

But the Focus is so DAMN FUN! It won't hang with subies and evos down the straights though.

The rims are stock size,but aftermarket lightweight units.225's are about as big as I can get without fender mods.They already have rolled edges.

Again,thanks for all the help!

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Post by offcamber09 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:03 am

chaos4NH wrote:I think SPB. The forced induction will be the thing that moves it to Street Prepared. ST requires stock motor induction, although the header, and ECU can be changed out.
If you take a ST4 car and add a turbo or supercharger and do nothing else- it's a ST3 car. I still think your problem is the flywheel. Since I'm going to be a Steward this season- I better brush up on the rules :roll:
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Post by breakaway500 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:30 am

So I take out the flywheel and I am good for ST3?My disc needs changing anyway.

The flywheel makes a minimal difference in performance and I would gladly take it out rather than have to add a rollcage and run in SP.

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Post by offcamber09 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:46 am

Anyone else want to chime in ? Sam and I differ on our interpretations of the rules. Item 6b clearly says turbo or supercharged cars are bumped up 1 class from the normally aspirated version. Is the problem that the car did not originally have a blower?

Anyone...anyone...Bueller?
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Post by breakaway500 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:01 pm

That's the problem with reading the rules alone;interpretation.There are so many ways things can be taken.

After reading the rules, again,it looks like my Miata MSpeed would have to run in ST2 because of the modified intake setup.It runs stock boost levels.

I'lll probably just take the alu flywheel out of the Focus when I swap the disc this week as the light flywheel is not worth the controversy it seems to generate.

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Post by chaos4NH » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:15 pm

breakaway500 wrote:That's the problem with reading the rules alone;interpretation.There are so many ways things can be taken.

After reading the rules, again,it looks like my Miata MSpeed would have to run in ST2 because of the modified intake setup.It runs stock boost levels.

I'lll probably just take the alu flywheel out of the Focus when I swap the disc this week as the light flywheel is not worth the controversy it seems to generate.
Rule 6b has been removed from the rules for 2008.

You are correct about the Miata Mazdaspeed, ST2. However, if you did change the boost levels, (and here is where I have a problem allowing ECU changes in ST, as most changes will effect the boost levels) you are moved to SP. I ran my Speed 3 last year, only mod was cold air intake = ST2. This year the intake goes back to stock and =SSA

As far as SP vs. ST, as I read it the motor is modded beyond what is allowed in ST. For instance, you can change the air intake, back to the stock throttle body and remain in ST, but adding a full new forced induction system? Adding a supercharger, where none was even offered, probably goes to SP.

Perhaps only the Steward guru, Nate, can say for sure. :D
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Post by cuda6666 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:34 pm

Come on Sam...soup up the grocery getter so you and I can have fun chasing the Atom around in SPB :lol: :lol:
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Post by ctkag » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:43 pm

The bump up one class rule is for a car that is offered from the factory as a n/a or turbo/supercharged. The turbo/supercharged car would be one class higher than the n/a car. Example: a 2.3l Ford Mustang would be say ST3 - the turbo version of that car would be ST2.

Adding a turbo or supercharger to an otherwise n/a car would put the car into SP. I'd say the Focus would be an SP car regardless of the flywheel and would require a rollbar & firesuit to compete.

Whether the car could attend a track day as a student - that's been kind of fuzzy.
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Post by breakaway500 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:45 pm

The Miata ecm is stock.Boost levels are stock.My Focus wheels and V710s will fit the car so maybe I'll use the Miata as the back up.

I really don't want to put a rollbar in the Focus,however I do have a spare one out of an old fox Mustang that looks like it will go in the car.

Already have a firesuit.

Didn't really want to do a rollbar in the Focus as it looks SO innocently stock. :wink:

Chasing the Atom. I like that :lol:

I have had the Focus on track at NHM(I)S and Summit Point and it is a cabable car.

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