It's official Hankook is the fastest tire out there...
It's official Hankook is the fastest tire out there...
only if they would just make adult sizes
Just the inside track for you guys
I'm running a C5Z06 with NASA TT, I opted to run 275/40 17s square due to the fact the Kook was paying $$$ for nationals and kook bucks for regional events.
I first bought a set of the 214 C50's, the first event I ran about 1.5 seconds faster at mid ohio than the last month. But still slower than a fellow TTAer(Z06 as well) that was running a fresh set of 305/30 18s Kuhmo 710s He set a new track record that day at a 1:35.2xx(beating the old record of 1:35.7xx) but it didn't count because he spun. Keep in mind it was only my second time at this track so I was still learning.
Come Nationals I bought a set of the 214 C70 (softer compound), on my second hot lap I ran a 1:34.5xx shattering the track record and at that point the closest person was running in the 1:36s, I took of the C70s and ran the C50s for the rest of the day and the next day, I was about 1.5 seconds slower on the C50s I think I got down to a 1:35.2.
Everyone was on fresh tires, Jesse the current track record holder and the "guy to beat" was on fresh A6s 295s square, Dave started on 710s but bought a new set of A6's (305s square)for the last day.
Dave and Jesse both got down to a 1:35.1xxx, feeling the pressure I bolted on the C70s for the last 2 sessions of the last day and ran a 1:33.8xx. 1st-4th were all C5 Z06s and I had the highest Power to weight ratio, I came in at 9.25 to 1, Jesse and Dave were very close to the 8.7 to 1, my car weighted in 150# heaver than Jesse's and dynoed only 2 HP more.
Conclusion you can go faster on a Kook with less tire & less car than a A6 or a 710.
Also my TTA record setting lap was faster than any of the PTA cars and I would have finished 2nd in TTS and third in TTU. I was the only one on the Kooks in the higher level classes. They all thought I was crazy running the Kook and downsizing my tire size. as Ricky Bobby would say": Who's' retarded now?"
Just the inside track for you guys
I'm running a C5Z06 with NASA TT, I opted to run 275/40 17s square due to the fact the Kook was paying $$$ for nationals and kook bucks for regional events.
I first bought a set of the 214 C50's, the first event I ran about 1.5 seconds faster at mid ohio than the last month. But still slower than a fellow TTAer(Z06 as well) that was running a fresh set of 305/30 18s Kuhmo 710s He set a new track record that day at a 1:35.2xx(beating the old record of 1:35.7xx) but it didn't count because he spun. Keep in mind it was only my second time at this track so I was still learning.
Come Nationals I bought a set of the 214 C70 (softer compound), on my second hot lap I ran a 1:34.5xx shattering the track record and at that point the closest person was running in the 1:36s, I took of the C70s and ran the C50s for the rest of the day and the next day, I was about 1.5 seconds slower on the C50s I think I got down to a 1:35.2.
Everyone was on fresh tires, Jesse the current track record holder and the "guy to beat" was on fresh A6s 295s square, Dave started on 710s but bought a new set of A6's (305s square)for the last day.
Dave and Jesse both got down to a 1:35.1xxx, feeling the pressure I bolted on the C70s for the last 2 sessions of the last day and ran a 1:33.8xx. 1st-4th were all C5 Z06s and I had the highest Power to weight ratio, I came in at 9.25 to 1, Jesse and Dave were very close to the 8.7 to 1, my car weighted in 150# heaver than Jesse's and dynoed only 2 HP more.
Conclusion you can go faster on a Kook with less tire & less car than a A6 or a 710.
Also my TTA record setting lap was faster than any of the PTA cars and I would have finished 2nd in TTS and third in TTU. I was the only one on the Kooks in the higher level classes. They all thought I was crazy running the Kook and downsizing my tire size. as Ricky Bobby would say": Who's' retarded now?"
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Re: It's official Hankook is the fastest tire out there...
Congrats! Awesome stuff for sure!
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Brillant!L98Terror wrote:They all thought I was crazy running the Kook and downsizing my tire size. as Ricky Bobby would say": Who's' retarded now?"
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L98, are you using stock rims, or 17" front and rear?
Btw, can you share your supplier - still getting them from NASCAR (I believe you said NASCAR..)? I ran Hoosiers on my Z this season and they only lasted for four events, with the last event feeling rather slippery. Although in their defense, they were absolutely glue the first two events.
I wouldnt mind trying a different vendor next year, but want to stay on stock staggered rim sizes.
Btw, can you share your supplier - still getting them from NASCAR (I believe you said NASCAR..)? I ran Hoosiers on my Z this season and they only lasted for four events, with the last event feeling rather slippery. Although in their defense, they were absolutely glue the first two events.
I wouldnt mind trying a different vendor next year, but want to stay on stock staggered rim sizes.
I'm running 17" front and rear, Hankook's biggest tire is a 275.Subw00er wrote:L98, are you using stock rims, or 17" front and rear?
Btw, can you share your supplier - still getting them from NASCAR (I believe you said NASCAR..)? I ran Hoosiers on my Z this season and they only lasted for four events, with the last event feeling rather slippery. Although in their defense, they were absolutely glue the first two events.
I wouldnt mind trying a different vendor next year, but want to stay on stock staggered rim sizes.
If I were you I'd run the Nitto Nt-01s those things lasted forever and were pretty quick as well, not Kook or Hossier quick but you'll get 10-15 track days easy. I think I got like 70 heat cycles on mine, figure 4 per day.
I still strongly feel the Hoosier A6 is the best tire out there, but if you are like me and not ready to drop 15k on a Penske shock setup so you can conserve your tires, your choices are somewhat limited. As far as a "road racing" compound, the Hankooks can't be beat. Better life than a Hoosier R, faster too. Haven't tried out the BFG R1 but have heard it's in line with an R6.
I'm not sure I would compare a PTA lap to a TTA lap, though. Time trials are a tiny bit different than wheel to wheel.
I'm not sure I would compare a PTA lap to a TTA lap, though. Time trials are a tiny bit different than wheel to wheel.
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Sure a race would be because your concern is to win not run a fast lap, but when you qualify you would be trying to lay down a fast lap. NASA TT=Race qualifying IMOTsurara wrote:I still strongly feel the Hoosier A6 is the best tire out there, but if you are like me and not ready to drop 15k on a Penske shock setup so you can conserve your tires, your choices are somewhat limited. As far as a "road racing" compound, the Hankooks can't be beat. Better life than a Hoosier R, faster too. Haven't tried out the BFG R1 but have heard it's in line with an R6.
I'm not sure I would compare a PTA lap to a TTA lap, though. Time trials are a tiny bit different than wheel to wheel.
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