Hoping to return to COM, Classing and other odd questions

[Georgethefierce]

As the topic says I am hoping to get back to running some events with COM this coming year and I'm pretty excited, HOWEVER, my car may be a bit on the odd side. Since I have gone to the dark side and started oval racing my car is going to be a bit of a hybrid.

I am planning on running a 600cc GSX-R powered Dwarf car and want to make sure it would be legal to run in TT's. A sample pic (not my car)



Now, safety wise it should be fine, they are fully caged, with fire suppression, emergency shut down switches, etc...are cars like this required to run a brake light? anything special i need to know, as far as rules on running an open wheel car?

Also I haven't run a COM event in about 4 yrs I would guess, do I need to go through the licensing process again, and if so, how does that work in a single seat car?

Also, I know nothing about the classing above ST, what class would I be in, wings and things?

Thanks for any and all input.
Jason Carroll

edit: and I see I posted this in the wrong forum! feel free to move as needed.

[Chrispy]

Hmm, I believe that car would be classed as PC. It is a purpose built car and is considered open wheel as there are no fenders. Perhaps considering the open wheel nature it could be considered a formula car, Nate can probably give more info as he is very familiar with the fine line between the two classes.

Here is the wording in the rule book regarding licensing.

"COMSCC Licenses are issued for an initial period of three (3) years. Following the initial three (3) year period,
licensed members must participate in at least one (1) COMSCC event per year to maintain an active license. At the
discretion of the Chief Instructor, members whose licenses have elapsed may be required to attend a COMSCC event as
a Student in order to reactivate their license. "

So basically you have to talk it over with Will Martins and see what he thinks. You've still be actively racing so that is a good thing.

[Georgethefierce]

Thanks for the reply, Chris.

any idea on the brake light? we don't run any on the oval tracks or mirrors.

I have absolutely no issue going through as a student again, any idea how that is handled in single seaters?

[breakaway500]

I'd consider it a replica "kit" car with no fenders,no windshield...so Prepared classes..and depending on engine configuration A-B or C. (C if it's a normally aspirated 4cyl GSXR600) Stoplight is necessary in Prepared. I have often wondered what a dwarf/Legends car could do on a road course. Single seaters usually get lead/follow instructor. Welcome back!

[paultg]

No idea on your questions but it would be awesome to see you/car at some events!

[nateh]

We ran Legends cars at Sebring a few years back. Compared to a Spec Miata, they were faster down the straights and slower through the corners. Lap times a few seconds quicker.

The rear suspension mounts tended to break, until they were upgraded.

[TroyV]

I'm in lust.

I've always wanted one of those.

[Georgethefierce]

Thanks for all the input, I haven't pulled the trigger on the dwarf yet, but I am planning to in the next couple of months, it makes it even more attractive knowing I can run it on a road course, hill climb and continue going around in circles.

[brucesallen]

I'd love to see more "Stock" cars in COM. My guess is this would be prepared C also. I also assume that it's high center of gravity would be a big disadvantage on paved courses-- making for slow corners. It was maybe ten years ago that we had a Modified and a tube frame "stock car" by two business partners in the club and they were awesome and inexpensive considering the big V8s.

I guess we don't cover mirrors in he rules but I would call it essential. In COM you need to know who is behind you- and give point-byes.

[nateh]

Mirrors are not in the rules (should be!), but they are an item on the safety tech check list.

[Georgethefierce]

welp a few months turned into a week. This weekend Bridget will be joining the G20 in my stable of freakish race cars



time to figure out a brake light road course set-ups

[breakaway500]

Very cool! I like it.

A brake light should be fairly simple to rig up..older motorcycles use a simple pull switch setup. $15 bucks on Ebay... link.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-BRAKE ... 023wt_1165

What is that little white wagon in the backgorund? Hillman Husky possibly?

[jlwhorf]

I always plumb in a tee fitting and use a pressure switch for the brake light. You dwarf car should handle a lot better if you swap out the treaded oval tires for a set of slicks.

[breakaway500]

"I always plumb in a tee fitting and use a pressure switch for the brake light."

They can leak/fail..ask me how I know.. If the pressure switch fails,you can lose your brake lights,AND your brakes! If a pull switch fails,no biggie..a simple repair.If something plumbed into the hydraulics fails..it means bleeding the system etc to get back out on track..

[Georgethefierce]

ok, so I am trying to get my registration done for Aug at NHMS and reading the rules there is nothing about brake lights. I see that FV is also a PC car and they do not run them. I will install a couple of mirrors but since I have a roundy round race the night before where we don't run brake lights, i would like to avoid the trouble if possible.

Also, window net/ arm restraints. I have doors....I don't have windows and we don't run nets, I have no problem wearing arm restraints if needed, is this acceptable? I think that covers everything rules wise.

beware the clown car!