COMSCC championship points system poll

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Would a Best-of-N points system impact your level of participation?

Yes, I would likely attend more events
11
29%
Yes, I would likely attend fewer events
2
5%
No, I would likely attend the same number of events
25
66%
 
Total votes: 38

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COMSCC championship points system: split decision

Post by boltonite » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:29 pm

boltonite wrote:At the recent board meeting there was discussion regarding the points system used to determine driver championships and how a "best-of-N" points system would impact participation. While members ought to be rewarded for participating in all events -- both "home" and "away" -- going to all events is unrealistic for many members, plus mechanical or other issues can derail a person's time trial (and thus one's standing) during the season. A "best of N" system basically allows you to drop one or more events. Also, there are "event participation points" that DO count for all events, so participants have an incentive to attend all events, especially in a closely-contested series.

The question is whether a "best-of-N" system would make the championship series more attractive and how this might affect attendance at events (esp at away tracks).
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Mark Swinehart wrote:I would suggest that you recheck your calculations.

If you review the results more carefully you will find that some members ran in different classes at different events.

It may not change the results much but I assume you want to be accurate.
Good catch Mark, thanks! Here are the updated stats....

For '06 there were 208 folks who had time trial results.
8 made it through all 8 TT events
5 made it through 7 of 8 TTs
8 made it through 6 of 8 TTs
*Only 21 of 208 people (~10%) made it through at least 6 TTs*
7 made it through 5 of 8 TTs
*roughly 13% of the total time trialers made it to at least 5 events*
At last night's board meeting, the "Best of N" proposed change to the seasons points calculation was shot down by a 5-4 vote. Apparently neither Jeff's stats nor the poll results were sufficiently compelling to sway a majority of the board. Perhaps next year.

In any case, there WILL be points awarded for each different track you go to, which will apply to your season-end points.

-FF

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Re: COMSCC championship points system: split decision

Post by zip4zat » Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:11 pm

boltonite wrote:
In any case, there WILL be points awarded for each different track you go to, which will apply to your season-end points.

-FF
Fred or other board members
Do you know when the "bonus" points will be posted? In the pending 2007 rules it states that these points will be assigned before the start of the season. Thanks

btw, as a point of clarification are these additional points supplimental to the participation (pity) points or weighted? Do you get these points even if you do not qualify for the participation points (ie the 2 points you get if you complete 1 timed lap if you dont DSQ...)
Section IV.A Paragraph 4 wrote: At the end of the year, additional points (including fractions) equal to the average number of cars per event will be
added to the points of each class winner to determine the Overall Driver Championship. The Board of Directors may,
from time to time, assign additional points to given events, to encourage participation in those events. These points will
be assigned before the first event of the season.
edit: Actually, I dont think it's equitable that these are not posted before registration of the first event. Others may disagree, but this would weigh into planning for which events to attend or not for the season in addition to the relavent rates as discussed last year.
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Post by enjoythemusic » Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:15 pm

Choose no diff... though because Canada and i had a situation about 6 years ago where they seemed to hate my then all blacked out sports car and perhaps my long hair, five face piercings... they made a fuss, i called my lawyer...

Eventually wrote a SCATHING ARTICLE about my situation with Canadian boarder folks that appeared on my site and wound up being republished in a few MAJOR newspapers. Long story short, Canada sent me a letter never apologizing but did say should not have any problems in the future and if i did (yada yada). My choice is to NEVER visit Canada... ever! Meanwhile i travel every year to Italy, Germany, France... and Bermuda this weekend.

So all other events me and lil open wheelie FC will be there, yet please understand i shall lose out on points/a few events due to sticking to my personal convictions. Of course not everyone can also get days off work to attend all events. It brings me joy to see LRP and WGI... NHIS is getting boring!

Anywho, if i lose out due to points from not attending away events...

Blame Canada, blame Canada :)
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Post by rajito » Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:51 pm

If points are meant to indicate how well someone drove in relation to others in their class, bonus points seem a bit bogus. If someone finished first out of two cars in Mosport, they'll get more points than someone who manages to beat out 10 other cars in their class at NHIS.

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re points

Post by boltonite » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:11 pm

Raj, that has always been true, except I believe the year-end championship takes that into account (i.e., winning a class w/ many participants = more year-end championship points). Bonus points are not any more or less bogus than event participation points.

Re "bonus"points, the decision was to give bonus points for each *different* venue/track at which you participate, in order to encourage folks to attend different tracks (in addition to NHIS). You get (say, 2) points for each different track you run at. For example, if you attend NHIS 4 times, LRP twice, and WGI 3 times, you get 6 bonus points added to your season total.

Not sure bonus points will be posted on the Web site since the decision was to use the above formula, but it will probably be posted somewhere. Since each track is worth 2 bonus points (max) per season, it will favor those who attend multiple events at different tracks vs those who attend multiple events at the same track . . .

Joe, I believe you will get bonus points if you get the "pity" points. There was no discussion regarding DQs or DNFs, but if you lose pity points for a DQ or DNF I'd imagine you'd lose the bonus points too.
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