COMSCC championship points system poll

[boltonite]

At the recent board meeting there was discussion regarding the points system used to determine driver championships and how a "best-of-N" points system would impact participation. While members ought to be rewarded for participating in all events -- both "home" and "away" -- going to all events is unrealistic for many members, plus mechanical or other issues can derail a person's time trial (and thus one's standing) during the season. A "best of N" system basically allows you to drop one or more events. Also, there are "event participation points" that DO count for all events, so participants have an incentive to attend all events, especially in a closely-contested series.

The question is whether a "best-of-N" system would make the championship series more attractive and how this might affect attendance at events (esp at away tracks).

EDIT: The 2nd option should actually read "YES, I would likely attend fewer events".

[ctkag]

I voted " I will attend the same number of events"

I try to make every event that I can. If I miss an event, it is because of a scheduling conflict or other problem that prevents me from attending.

This poll may not capture the idea exactly.

I support the 'Best of 'N' - with the added 'event participation points'

[boltonite]

I too voted that I would attend the same number of events.

As COMSCC has expanded its schedule to more tracks, it is more difficult for members to attend all events and I personally believe that a best-of-N approach would increase participation by improving one's chances of winning a year-end trophy up until the last event of the season.

-Fred

[L98Terror]

I too voted that I would attend the same number of events.

As COMSCC has expanded its schedule to more tracks, it is more difficult for members to attend all events and I personally believe that a best-of-N approach would increase participation by improving one's chances of winning a year-end trophy up until the last event of the season.

-Fred

There should be bonus for beating a track record

[rajito]

There should be bonus for beating a track record

You would like that, wouldn't you?

This is gonna turn into Nascar - points for leading, points for spinning, points for passing Miatas, penalties for getting passed by Mustangs, points for wearing a blue skirt, etc. etc.

The points given for an event should stay the way it is - it's good enough. It would be a good idea to include only your top 7 of 8 finishes.

Raj

[DanDarcy]

Hey Raj -- Mustang drivers get extra points for pushing WRXs off the track, That must be the reason you are always off the track

[Seven]

Gotta love stats when they provide such compelling evidence ... in '07 there were 228 folks who had time trial results. Care to guess how many of those 228 people registered a full 8 time trial events???? The answering is a whoping 6!!! O.k. so a bunch of folks missed an event for a reason or 2, the results must really jump when you look at 6 or even 7 events right? Wrong. 4 people made it to 7 time trials while 11 made it to 6 of 8. In other words of 228 folks registering results for at least 1 time trial only 21 made it to atleast 6 events. Going one step further (5 of increases the number by 5 to 26 people. As such, roughly 11% of the total time trialers made it to atleast 5 events. It can't be clearer that a best of "x" methodology makes the most sense. My initial inclination was to suggest only dropping 1 score, but after looking at the numbers there is ample evidence to suggest a best 6 of 8 may be a good starting point.

[Mark Swinehart]

I would suggest that you recheck your calculations.

If you review the results more carefully you will find that some members ran in different classes at different events.

It may not change the results much but I assume you want to be accurate.

[mossaidis]

I'm interested to hear if the participants that finished 7 or 8 of the events in '06 would be less likely to participate in all (or 7) of the events in '07 if we were to drop one event.

[boltonite]

And I'm also interested in how many participants who attend 3-4 events might attend a few more if it meant a shot at a year-end trophy.

Participation is crucial for the club to maintain its event schedule and any minor tweak to improve overall turnout is in the club's best interest.

FF

[Seven]

I would suggest that you recheck your calculations.

If you review the results more carefully you will find that some members ran in different classes at different events.

It may not change the results much but I assume you want to be accurate.

Good catch Mark, thanks! Here are the updated stats....


For '06 there were 208 folks who had time trial results.
8 made it through all 8 TT events
5 made it through 7 of 8 TTs
8 made it through 6 of 8 TTs
*Only 21 of 208 people (~10%) made it through at least 6 TTs*
7 made it through 5 of 8 TTs
*roughly 13% of the total time trialers made it to atleast 5 events*

[brucesallen]

I think it benefits the finances of the club to reward attending away events.

[Mark Swinehart]

Jeff –

Of course your figures are only based on the numbers of participants that time trialed.

COMSCC events always have larger participant numbers on the Day One of an event. For example, the registration figures for:
Lime Rock Day One – 117 Day Two – 95 Time Trialers - 60,
NHIS-3 Day One – 131 Day Two – 100 Time Trialers - 77,
NHIS2 Day One – 137 Day Two – 123 Time Trialers - 78 .

The Day Two registration figures are always larger than the number of actual time trail participants. There are always mechanical breakdowns and members who don’t want to time trial for any number of reasons.

[chaos4NH]

RIGHT ON BRUCE!! After all, the club is seeking ways to increase attendance at away events. In fact, if I had not skipped Summit, I would have won the SSB year end points trophy. That's where the incentive should be: increased points for away events to encourage more participants.
Heck, a real hot shoe could win the 4 NHIS events in 2007 and attend only 2 of the away events and trophy for the year. Not much incentive to travel 9 hours to Mosport or 10 hours to Summit, if the goal is reached by placing well in only 6 events.

[Stynger]

I would suggest that you recheck your calculations.

If you review the results more carefully you will find that some members ran in different classes at different events.

It may not change the results much but I assume you want to be accurate.

Good catch Mark, thanks! Here are the updated stats....


For '06 there were 208 folks who had time trial results.
8 made it through all 8 TT events
5 made it through 7 of 8 TTs
8 made it through 6 of 8 TTs
*Only 21 of 208 people (~10%) made it through at least 6 TTs*
7 made it through 5 of 8 TTs
*roughly 13% of the total time trialers made it to atleast 5 events*

How many were "paying customers?"