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Post by enjoythemusic » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:01 pm

Alas, not from a COM event, though taken on open track day on Thursday Oct 19th. It was great seeing many COM'ers there! My previous best lap was 1:30 and now down to 1:26.5, though this lap is 1:27.3. Data acquisition is via a Traqmate unit and then the data is interpreted and displayed/overlayed by TrackVision software (i 'hacked' the visual interface :) ). Tires are Mich Pilot Cups (2007 will be Hoosier or the like slicks).

http://www.ferraritweaks.com/videos/nhis101906.wmv

Still need to 'find' a way to lose about 4 seconds more per lap :(
Upgrades to the Ferrari 308 since you guys saw the car include:

Lightweight flywheel and clutch
New rear aero package
Readjusted the weight distribution
Refurb Bosch K-Jet fuel distributor
Dyno tuning
Installation of Electromotive XDI ignition.

This winter will be adding a Supercharger to FINALLY get some half decent power out of the engine :) . Power is currently at rear wheels 181HP/165TQ to a predicted with Supercharger 310HP/275TQ. Car weights 2900 lbs wet with me in her.
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Post by Subw00er » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:11 pm

cool.

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Post by turtlevette » Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:56 am

Thanks for not dubbing some stupid song over the sound of that beautifull engine.

It looks like you're pertty darn fast to me.

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Post by enjoythemusic » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:52 pm

turtlevette wrote:Thanks for not dubbing some stupid song over the sound of that beautiful engine.
It looks like you're pretty darn fast to me.
Music? The sound of the engine is music to this audiophile's ears :)

Thanks for the positive note concerning the lap but it still feels a bit slow. She is fairly tossable with the new configuration, but not tossable like a Lotus or open wheel lightweight cars :(

Am doing only 100 mph before braking down the straight. Adding a Supercharger this winter with about a boost of 6, so low boost. Going down the straight at Watkins Glen i felt like i hit a brick wall at 120mph and was only a few hundred feet into the back straight and she would not go much faster. This was with the old aero setup and hoping this new setup helps, but will never know as we are adding power to the engine this winter.

Finally figured out NHIS turn 2a/b/? in the double chicane configuration so i don't wash out during the final transition/change of tarmac. The tires were Mich Pilot Cups all season long and seems am almost maxing out their grip at around/over 1G in many places so next year will be going through sets (plural) of Hoosiers R6. Redid the rear stubs last month as that is a known weakness when one starts to really pull G's.

For this video and going forward i rebalanced the car by moving more weight to the front for a near 50F/50R verses pervious 43F/57R. Installed a large span dual-element wing and this added about 25 lbs to the car, and very high up on the car (bad per se). NHIS likes oversteer and the new wing added rear weight so the rear end was jacking up BEFORE i lowered the rear to move more weight to front plus lowering overall CG. Ran low to medium wing configuration BTW and may have some rear diffusers for under the car made. The bottom of the car came factory stock with a flat/sealed system that is open only for the engine bits. problem is, the outgoing air under the car just sweeps around versus being directed rearward.

Am really trying as best i can and until this 2925 lbs beast (wet, me in it with gear) gets more power, the current 185HP/165TQ at the rear wheels is making acceleration and pulling away at apex afterwards painfully slow :(

The guys in tweaked turbo'ed Subie's are killing me as are those lightweight Miatas and of course M3s! Worse still, there is no 'road map' or off-the-shelf solutions (Dinan, etc) so my job being a driver is augmented to being a data cruncher, engineer, and designer.

Gotta tell ya, it has been a great year for learning with lots of seat time, but also shows how much needs to be done to get her anywhere near competitive. Don't ask the costs, you modern production guys have it cheap!

But at the end of the day she makes me smile. It saddens me to see the majority of New England Ferrari owners just tooling along on the streets in their cars. Have been trying to get some of them to join track events with virtually no success. Oh well...

Keep the shiny side up and will await the 2007 COMSCC rules and figure out where the car is placed.
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Post by turtlevette » Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:48 pm

enjoythemusic wrote:But at the end of the day she makes me smile. It saddens me to see the majority of New England Ferrari owners just tooling along on the streets in their cars. Have been trying to get some of them to join track events with virtually no success. Oh well...

Keep the shiny side up and will await the 2007 COMSCC rules and figure out where the car is placed.
Its refreshing to see someone beating the crap out of an exotic car. Kudos to you. I know you run hard cause you showed me tire wall marks on the car. Hey but, I've got black streaks all over my hood from people passing me kicking up little bits of rubber. :lol:

Well at least i had my first spin at Mt. T. this year afer 6 years of doing this even though i never left the pavement.

You have 20hp more than i've got on the old heavy vette. Us guys with old cars need a little more wiggle room to do mods to make the cars a little more fun. Brand new cars are topping 400hp now and i just can't pedal hard enough to stay out of the way.

I put in a rule change to allow up to 2" fender flares in ST. I know it ain't gonna happen but if we all start asking for mods maybe we can beat them down eventually.

With L-88 flares 17x12s with race rubber and a aluminum small block 434 i might have a chance of running with the newer cars. That'd be ok for ST.......right? :D

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Post by enjoythemusic » Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:46 am

turtlevette wrote:Its refreshing to see someone beating the crap out of an exotic car. Kudos to you. I know you run hard cause you showed me tire wall marks on the car. Hey but, I've got black streaks all over my hood from people passing me kicking up little bits of rubber. :lol:
Thanks, and good to see another vintage guy :) Oh yeah, know those clag marks on the hood quite well. To my defence, am not 'beating the crap' but AM driving her to the edge as best of my (lackluster) ability. Ability is getting better and those marks on the side were due to the friggen BMW club the day before at Watkins Glen dumping oil all the way arounf the turn as you enter the laces of the boot. That oil took out three cars in exactly the same way. We suddenly had NO GRIP at braking and sided into the tire wall. Fortunatly my old slow car got it the worst, a Ferrari 360 Challenge car got it really, really bad.

Well, nothing a bottle of touch up paint could not fix :) That weekend (Labor Day at WGI) out of 50 cars a total of 12(!) got into single car incidences. Most of them were by guys who track a lot. There was something really 'wrong' with WGI that weekend in various spots. Intermittant rain did not help matters.

Well at least i had my first spin at Mt. T. this year after 6 years of doing this even though i never left the pavement.
First, glad to hear your car is fine. Only one spin in 6 years, outstanding!
You have 20hp more than i've got on the old heavy vette. Us guys with old cars need a little more wiggle room to do mods to make the cars a little more fun. Brand new cars are topping 400hp now and i just can't pedal hard enough to stay out of the way.
Perhaps COMSCC could make a new segment for us vintage guys who want to mod our cars. With the new Subies pushing huge #'s and Evos and goodness knows what else like Factory 5 cars... Us vintage guys might find parts are getting $$$ or, in my case, the stock electronic ignition systems are starting to crap out so went with an Electromotive setup. It was a sideways move, NOT for performance but when NO ONE repairs them, there is NO schematics anywhere, and there is NO NEW ONES available, these Italian ignition boxes cost $1400+... Forget that!

At least with your Vette i bet parts are relatively inexpensive and available. Guys like me are soooo SOL... No matter, we need a vintage group where like cars are grouped. Do not care if they rate it on HP/TQ or tires, or whatever. Back in the day your vette was the shiznit... as was that red thing i am changing the 2.2 GALLONS of oil in today.

Wonder what today's Subie turbo and Miata guys will be crying about in 20 to 30 years? What will they be up against in their classification? And how will COMSCC deal with that?

i say go for fender flares, max out the tweaks, make the car all it can be provided you keep the main stock engine bits (same displacement), main chassis, and main bits of the tranny. Anything else is Game On. Bring It :)

We need a VINTAGE classification for old guys like me :)

Putting my 185HP/165TQ 2,925 lbs 308GTS up against a Factory 5 racer or M3... May as well just put her in the trailer and go home :(
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Post by Stevie K. » Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:26 pm

Thanks for creating a great video tool for us to study! So often these in-car clips are of dashboards and rear-view mirrors. Most of the video I found of Lime Rock wouldn't give me a look AHEAD, which will help me learn the tracks visually. Again, well done. :thumbleft:

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Post by Dave_G » Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:31 pm

Stevie K. wrote:Thanks for creating a great video tool for us to study! So often these in-car clips are of dashboards and rear-view mirrors. Most of the video I found of Lime Rock wouldn't give me a look AHEAD, which will help me learn the tracks visually. Again, well done. :thumbleft:
I agree. Where did you have the video camera mounted? What did you use to mount it? I like the view!

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Post by enjoythemusic » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:51 am

Stevie K. wrote:Most of the video I found of Lime Rock wouldn't give me a look AHEAD, which will help me learn the tracks visually. Again, well done. :thumbleft:
A most humble thanks. My best lap at Lime Rock is 1:06 but stupid me forgot to turn on the video cam (DOH!). No data overlay on this one and yes i know i like taking the uphill a bit wider than some desire. It works FOR ME consistently but do flirt with the edge to keep the momentum going. Guess what i am saying is, if you do Lime Rock BEWARE of the uphill and keep centered until you really want to flirt with things with little room for error. A slow lap can be seen at
http://www.FerrariTweaks.com/videos/limerock072106.wmv

Dave_G wrote:I agree. Where did you have the video camera mounted? What did you use to mount it? I like the view!
i use the Samsung SportsCam. It is about the size of a pack of cigarettes and i use the camera (not the lackluster lipstick cam as it is lower resolution and the mic on the lipstick is too sensitive to wind noise). The mount used is the ULTRA CLAMP ($30) as seen at http://www.viosport.com/store/customer/home.php?cat=245 . Keep in mind the Samsung SportsCam weights only a few ounces and records on the Sony Memory Stick. i data dump each session on the Digital Foci Media Buddy as i only get about 18 minutes per GB, so a 1GB memory card is good for 1 run session.

As for counting, the Ferrari dashboard has a nice slim lip and i clamp the camera on the left side lip of the dashboard, so it is out of the way visually versus mounting it on the right (more center) that would obscure a teeny tiny bit of view. This is why the videos seem far skewed left, even as compared to the driver's view. So when it might SEEM my tires are off the road on the left, i am really just using every last drop of track (and during right turns it might seem a touch wide when i am not).

Hope this helps.
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Post by enjoythemusic » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:57 am

enjoythemusic wrote:
Stevie K. wrote:Most of the video I found of Lime Rock wouldn't give me a look AHEAD, which will help me learn the tracks visually. Again, well done. :thumbleft:
A most humble thanks. My best lap at Lime Rock is 1:06 but stupid me forgot to turn on the video cam (DOH!). No data overlay on this one and yes i know i like taking the uphill a bit wider than some desire. It works FOR ME consistently but do flirt with the edge to keep the momentum going. Guess what i am saying is, if you do Lime Rock BEWARE of the uphill and keep centered until you really want to flirt with things with little room for error. A slow lap can be seen at
http://www.FerrariTweaks.com/videos/limerock072106.wmv

Dave_G wrote:I agree. Where did you have the video camera mounted? What did you use to mount it? I like the view!
i use the Samsung SportsCam. It is about the size of a pack of cigarettes and i use the camera (not the lackluster lipstick cam as it is lower resolution and the mic on the lipstick is too sensitive to wind noise). The mount used is the ULTRA CLAMP ($30) as seen at http://www.viosport.com/store/customer/home.php?cat=245 . Keep in mind the Samsung SportsCam weights only a few ounces and records on the Sony Memory Stick. i data dump each session on the Digital Foci Media Buddy as i only get about 18 minutes per GB, so a 1GB memory card is good for 1 run session.

As for mounting, the Ferrari dashboard has a nice slim lip and i clamp the camera on the left side lip of the dashboard, so it is out of the way visually versus mounting it on the right (more center) that would obscure a teeny tiny bit of view. This is why the videos seem far skewed left, even as compared to the driver's view. So when it might SEEM my tires are off the road on the left, i am really just using every last drop of track (and during right turns it might seem a touch wide when i am not).

Hope this helps.
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