Good demo on heel and toe with Senna in an NSX

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Good demo on heel and toe with Senna in an NSX

Post by StephanAlfa » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:17 pm

And some shifting and throttle blip techniques too! :o

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Re: Good demo on heel and toe with Senna in an NSX

Post by cuda6666 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:26 am

OK, I'll bite. That's exactly how my (old school) feet behave on downshifts. But what's up with those blips during acceleration when I'd expect to see smooth throttle application? Is he compensating for some deficiency of that particular car?
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Re: Good demo on heel and toe with Senna in an NSX

Post by StephanAlfa » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:45 am

cuda6666 wrote:OK, I'll bite. That's exactly how my (old school) feet behave on downshifts. But what's up with those blips during acceleration when I'd expect to see smooth throttle application? Is he compensating for some deficiency of that particular car?
Good observation. I was a bit puzzled when I saw that but hey, he was the champ so must work somehow!
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In this case I think he is trying to keep the revs up somehow ad these engines like to be in a higher side of power band?
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Re: Good demo on heel and toe with Senna in an NSX

Post by brucesallen » Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:37 am

So, the new driving shoes are loafers?
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Re: Good demo on heel and toe with Senna in an NSX

Post by cuda6666 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:08 pm

Back in the day - way before Senna - you wore loafers so that you didn't have to change shoes when moving from the cocktail party to the cockpit.
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Re: Good demo on heel and toe with Senna in an NSX

Post by StephanAlfa » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:55 am

cuda6666 wrote:Back in the day - way before Senna - you wore loafers so that you didn't have to change shoes when moving from the cocktail party to the cockpit.
That's right, loafers has thin soles so you could feel the pedals. Some shoe makers bragged about the type of leather they used to make the soles and "feel like you are barefoot" ...
Too bad if you did a lot of shifting and heel and toes the shoes got all scuffed! :shock: :P
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Re: Good demo on heel and toe with Senna in an NSX

Post by dradernh » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:31 am

StephanAlfa wrote:That's right, loafers has thin soles so you could feel the pedals. Some shoe makers bragged about the type of leather they used to make the soles and "feel like you are barefoot" ...
Bally always had very thin soles - you didn't wear them if it was wet out.
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Re: Good demo on heel and toe with Senna in an NSX

Post by horizenjob » Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:12 pm

OK, I'll bite. That's exactly how my (old school) feet behave on downshifts. But what's up with those blips during acceleration when I'd expect to see smooth throttle application? Is he compensating for some deficiency of that particular car?
I'm at work so I can't see the video, but this is the internet so I'll offer an opinion anyway!

I blip for upshifts because I don't use the clutch. You grab the 'ol shifter and yank, then when you blip the throttle it insta-shifts.

I suppose that's a negative throttle blip...
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Re: Good demo on heel and toe with Senna in an NSX

Post by cuda6666 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:45 am

Blipping on an upshift makes no sense to me - especially if you are not using the clutch. I know this is obvious, but the purpose of a blip on a downshift is to synchronize the rotation speed of the engine with the increased rotation speed of the trasmission input shaft that results from shifting to the next gear down. On an upshift, the oposite situation exists. Therefore, on a clutchless upshift, you would let the engine speed drop while the gearshift is in neutral before engaging the next higher gear.
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Re: Good demo on heel and toe with Senna in an NSX

Post by horizenjob » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:30 pm

It's hard to see what's going on here. The only place I think I saw a blip on an upshift is right after he's started away from the pits. You can also hear a crunch and I think he just missed the shift, he beat the syncros.

I thought it notable how he always gives a few blips going in to the apex from the braking zone... He's not leaving anything onthe table.
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