blindsidefive0 wrote:Posting from vacation so I'll be short...
While there may be specific cases, on the whole I cannot imagine how the new Touring system is more expensive that current state rules. Yes, under the new system you may be 2, 5, or 9 points away from the theoretical top of a class. Let's use current state SSU rules, since that's been thrown around...what is more expensive, a Ferrari or X points worth of "go-fast" mods on a C5 z06? I would say the Ferrari is more expensive. My point, and I think Kevin's point, is that no one is "maxed out" in the current classes; the new classes just provide some transparency to that reality. The fact that guys can actually imagine what the limit of a class with the 2013 rules is shows that it's more within reach than today...
Also, for ST - after doing a quick exercise to help determine safety cutoffs, I found that you can do about 40 points worth of mods it today's current ST rules and still stay legal. Between the tires (10-12 points), weight (5 points), suspension (8 points), engine (5 points for NA, more for FI), etc...it adds up very quickly. However, in the 2013 proposal each class has only a 10 point spread, without modification cliffs (i.e. if I perform this, then I must perform 30 other mods to "max out" my car); how does this not save money?
Nick, Know you guys put a ton of work into this project and have really tried to make work correctly and I thank you guys for your efforts. COM has been a really fun place for Laura and I to play so I really don't want to "rock the boat" and that was why I stayed out of it, untill we were mentioned. (you and I have had off line conversations so you know what I was thinking)
Then I was asked a question that I sill don't know the answer to but the more I think about it the more, I don't think I like the idea of running heavy stock cars with light modified cars in the same class because like I said to Brendan it is like Apples and Oranges yes we bought fast stock cars to run in a stock class.. so if we need to run with modded cars we will mod them as we can afford to till we are at the top of the range. But I would rather leave them alone.
Yes I know if a guy or girl shows up in a C6 on r6's or a Ferrari we are going to get drilled but what is the real likelyhood of that?
One issue I have is this will force the heavy cars to have fresh rubber at every event and the light car might not have to and be still able to run at the front....I know you have told me that we can save money on lesser tires but really once you have driven our cars on Hoosiers you don't want to go back it take a bunch of fun out of it and I don't want to be the guinea pig and risk spending 1100 -1500 on a guess that they might or might not be ok.
As i had stated before I have lived thru a major change of rules in a racing series (granted it was drag racing something that i have done heavily since I was 16) that I ran with for years and loved then a well intentioned group of people trying to fix a perceived wrong inadvertently changed the whole dynamic that made the series fun and that eventually killed the series. Not that this is what is see happening here, just that it is something I never want to see repeat of.
Again I was asked my opinion and this is what im thinking
Bob
How many SS or even ST cars are driven to/from events with not means of carrying a set of tires, let alone a set of rain tires.
