Stynger wrote:dtlemoine wrote:
I like the Touring package, I don't like the Super Class structure.
I'll be running Super Class, I would change my vote.
FWIW I see this as two separate classes. People running Touring should vote on that part of the rules, people running Super Class should have a say on how that is structured. I don't think either class really cares how the other sets their rule structure. I don't see the need for the two classes to be on the same program.
This^^^
I think if you subdivided the Prepared responders out of the equation,,, I'd be willing to bet more Prepared people are satisfied with the current rules than not.
I have complete disdain for HP / Weight rule sets so I will not bore you with that. Suffice to say, I hate it. Impossible to prove or police unless you are bringing a set of scales and a dyno to the track. The "mod calculators" are so, so, so subjective. Who decides what mod equals what penalty or points tally.
Not to mention the base classing. 100% subjective. Impossible to get right.
All I have ever wanted to do is compete against other similar small displacement normally aspirated cars. Its the true measure to me of the competition.
I dont really want to compare or run against V8s, I6s or turbo rally cars,,, but because my checklist would line up that way,,, thats likely what I would be running against.
That,,, I could care less about. Its no measure. Oh well the Vette was on street tires and the Turbo STI/Evo had an interior,,, whatever. Some spreadsheet said we were good competition.
Dont care. They couldnt be more different. Profile is so different i wouldn't care if I beat one or it beat me.
I DO enjoy the crap out of competing against Fred (or any E30 M3s), any 944s, Baby Grands, Integras, etc, etc,,, cars with 4 cylinders.
Currently COM currently gives me and others like me the chance to fight knives with knives. Bring the best knife you have and have at it.
Prepared is the ultimate tinkerer class in the Northeast for Time Trialing. Its the TT variant of SCCA's SPU and SPO club racing classes. Production run what ya brung displacement based classes (which is the other place I spend my track dollars)...
I'll quickly lose interest in the TT day if the rules go HP / Weight, or any of the proposed "calculate your mods" type classing for my car.
I do think Prepared may need one more class, Prepared FI. Throw all the forced induction cars into that class. Once a car gets to the Prepared level, its too hard to put a number on what kind of power its putting down, especially theses days. The old 1.5 displacement modifier that has been used for decades for FI cars no longer works.
Those cars can make just crazy HP with modern waste gates and engine mgt.
Just make a PFI class and let those guys all go at it.
Throw all the spreadsheets and calculators and scales and dynos at Touring you want but PLEASE dont screw up Prepared.