2010 rule change proposals due by 11/18/09
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Re: 2010 rule change proposals due by 11/18/09
#8 - This request was approved as written
Rulebook Section:
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XII. PREPARED
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Old Rule:
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This classification includes full race prepared cars and cars with modifications not normally found in street legal cars.
Modifications are allowed within the realm of those allowed by major sanctioning bodies such as SCCA, IMSA, NASCAR, or FIA.
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New Rule:
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This classification is for any car not that does not fit into any of the more restrictive classes above.
Any competitor entering a Prepared car not explicitly described below should consult the COMSCC Stewards, who have discretion to classify it as they deem appropriate.
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Rulebook Section:
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XII. PREPARED
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Old Rule:
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This classification includes full race prepared cars and cars with modifications not normally found in street legal cars.
Modifications are allowed within the realm of those allowed by major sanctioning bodies such as SCCA, IMSA, NASCAR, or FIA.
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New Rule:
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This classification is for any car not that does not fit into any of the more restrictive classes above.
Any competitor entering a Prepared car not explicitly described below should consult the COMSCC Stewards, who have discretion to classify it as they deem appropriate.
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Re: 2010 rule change proposals due by 11/18/09
#9 - This request was approved as written
Rulebook Section:
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Section: XII. PREPARED
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Old Rule:
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FORMULA PREPARED
SCCA Formula Ford, CSR, DSR, SCA (Any Formula Car that meets SCCA Formula General Specifications that is not otherwise classified by COMSCC shall run in Formula Prepared.)
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New Rule:
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FORMULA PREPARED
FP is for high-performance purpose-built race cars. FP has no performance limits so modifications from the original sanctioning body\'s specifications are allowed. Included are:
Any Formula Car (in the sense of an open-wheeled, single seat, open cockpit car) that is not otherwise classified. Typical are the SCCA FA, FB, FC, FE, FF, FM, F500 Formula car classes.
Any Sports Racer (in the sense of a closed wheel, open cockpit car) that is not otherwise classified. Typical are the SCCA ASR, CSR, DSR, ESR, S2000 classes.
Any Sports Prototype (in the sense of a closed wheel, closed cockpit car) that is not otherwise classified. Typical are American LeMans or GrandAm P1, P2 and GTP.
[submitted by Nate and Bruce]
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Rulebook Section:
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Section: XII. PREPARED
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Old Rule:
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FORMULA PREPARED
SCCA Formula Ford, CSR, DSR, SCA (Any Formula Car that meets SCCA Formula General Specifications that is not otherwise classified by COMSCC shall run in Formula Prepared.)
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New Rule:
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FORMULA PREPARED
FP is for high-performance purpose-built race cars. FP has no performance limits so modifications from the original sanctioning body\'s specifications are allowed. Included are:
Any Formula Car (in the sense of an open-wheeled, single seat, open cockpit car) that is not otherwise classified. Typical are the SCCA FA, FB, FC, FE, FF, FM, F500 Formula car classes.
Any Sports Racer (in the sense of a closed wheel, open cockpit car) that is not otherwise classified. Typical are the SCCA ASR, CSR, DSR, ESR, S2000 classes.
Any Sports Prototype (in the sense of a closed wheel, closed cockpit car) that is not otherwise classified. Typical are American LeMans or GrandAm P1, P2 and GTP.
[submitted by Nate and Bruce]
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Re: 2010 rule change proposals due by 11/18/09
#10 - This request was discussed but received no support
Rulebook Section:
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Section: XII. PREPARED
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Old Rule:
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FORMULA PREPARED (FP)
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New Rule:
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Rename the class as UNLIMITED PREPARED (UP)
[The purpose of this change is to remove the cognitive dissonance, and confusion, of including closed wheel cars in this class. Alternatives of Formula Unlimited (FU) and Prepared Unlimited (PU) were considered and discarded. - Nate]
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Rulebook Section:
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Section: XII. PREPARED
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Old Rule:
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FORMULA PREPARED (FP)
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New Rule:
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Rename the class as UNLIMITED PREPARED (UP)
[The purpose of this change is to remove the cognitive dissonance, and confusion, of including closed wheel cars in this class. Alternatives of Formula Unlimited (FU) and Prepared Unlimited (PU) were considered and discarded. - Nate]
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Re: 2010 rule change proposals due by 11/18/09
#11 - This request was discussed but received no support
Rulebook Section:
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IX. SHOWROOM STOCK
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Old Rule:
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SHOWROOM STOCK A (SSA)
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New Rule:
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SHOWROOM STOCK A (SSA)
BMW E90 330
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Rulebook Section:
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IX. SHOWROOM STOCK
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Old Rule:
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SHOWROOM STOCK A (SSA)
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New Rule:
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SHOWROOM STOCK A (SSA)
BMW E90 330
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Re: 2010 rule change proposals due by 11/18/09
#12 - This request was approved as written
Rulebook Section:
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ix
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Old Rule:
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e36 M3 in SSGT
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New Rule:
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e36 m3 to SSA
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Rulebook Section:
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ix
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Old Rule:
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e36 M3 in SSGT
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New Rule:
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e36 m3 to SSA
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Re: 2010 rule change proposals due by 11/18/09
#13 - This request was discussed but received no support
Rulebook Section:
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VII. DRIVER REQUIREMENTS
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Old Rule:
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E. Drivers and passengers must wear a minimum M2000 (SA2000 recommended) Snell approved safety helmet at all times while on the course.
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New Rule:
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E. Drivers and passengers must wear a minimum M2005 (SA2005 recommended) Snell approved safety helmet at all times while on the course.
[M2000 and SA2000 helmets from before will be >5 years old in 2010. - Nate]
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Rulebook Section:
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VII. DRIVER REQUIREMENTS
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Old Rule:
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E. Drivers and passengers must wear a minimum M2000 (SA2000 recommended) Snell approved safety helmet at all times while on the course.
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New Rule:
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E. Drivers and passengers must wear a minimum M2005 (SA2005 recommended) Snell approved safety helmet at all times while on the course.
[M2000 and SA2000 helmets from before will be >5 years old in 2010. - Nate]
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Re: 2010 rule change proposals due by 11/18/09
#14 - This request was approved with a change –add Mustang GT 500 to SSU
Rulebook Section:
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IX. SHOWROOM STOCK
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Old Rule:
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missing new pony cars
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New Rule:
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SSU:
add Chevrolet Camaro SS 2010+, Mustang GT500
SSGT:
add Dodge Charger SRT8 2006+
SSA:
add Chevrolet Camaro LS, LT 2010+
add Dodge Charger RT 2006+
[New pony cars classified according to power/weight ratio. - Nate
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Rulebook Section:
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IX. SHOWROOM STOCK
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Old Rule:
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missing new pony cars
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New Rule:
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SSU:
add Chevrolet Camaro SS 2010+, Mustang GT500
SSGT:
add Dodge Charger SRT8 2006+
SSA:
add Chevrolet Camaro LS, LT 2010+
add Dodge Charger RT 2006+
[New pony cars classified according to power/weight ratio. - Nate
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Re: 2010 rule change proposals due by 11/18/09
#15 - This request was approved as written
PROPOSED RULE ADDITION – for inclusion in the section dealing with the scoring of time trials and overall Driver Championship points
Ties in the final point totals shall be resolved on the basis of each participant’s record of First Place finishes; then if necessary, Second Place finishes; then if necessary, Third Place finishes, and so on until a winner emerges. If this procedure fails to produce a result, they shall be considered tied for the position in the standings.
PROPOSED RULE ADDITION – for inclusion in the section dealing with the scoring of time trials and overall Driver Championship points
Ties in the final point totals shall be resolved on the basis of each participant’s record of First Place finishes; then if necessary, Second Place finishes; then if necessary, Third Place finishes, and so on until a winner emerges. If this procedure fails to produce a result, they shall be considered tied for the position in the standings.
Re: 2010 rule change proposals due by 11/18/09
#16 - This request was not approved
Rulebook Section:
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IX. SHOWROOM STOCK
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Old Rule:
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SHOWROOM STOCK A (SSA)
BMW E30 M3
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New Rule:
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SHOWROOM STOCK B (SSB)
BMW E30 M3
The Acura Integra Type R, BMW E36 325/328 and Mazda MX-5 2006+ are in SSB. These cars all have similar power:weight and performance to an E30M3, recent TT results show equivalent relative performance.
Also, if the 6-cyl E36 M3 goes in SSA, the 4-cyl M3 belongs in SSB.
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Rulebook Section:
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IX. SHOWROOM STOCK
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Old Rule:
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SHOWROOM STOCK A (SSA)
BMW E30 M3
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New Rule:
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SHOWROOM STOCK B (SSB)
BMW E30 M3
The Acura Integra Type R, BMW E36 325/328 and Mazda MX-5 2006+ are in SSB. These cars all have similar power:weight and performance to an E30M3, recent TT results show equivalent relative performance.
Also, if the 6-cyl E36 M3 goes in SSA, the 4-cyl M3 belongs in SSB.
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Re: 2010 rule change proposals due by 11/18/09
#17 - This request was discussed but received no support
Rulebook Section:
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IX. SHOWROOM STOCK
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Old Rule:
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SHOWROOM STOCK B (SSB)
BMW E30 325, Z3 1.9
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New Rule:
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SHOWROOM STOCK C (SSC)
BMW E30 325, Z3 1.9
Move these cars to SSC for consistency if the E36 M3 moves to SSA and E30 M3 moves to SSB.
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Rulebook Section:
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IX. SHOWROOM STOCK
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Old Rule:
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SHOWROOM STOCK B (SSB)
BMW E30 325, Z3 1.9
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New Rule:
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SHOWROOM STOCK C (SSC)
BMW E30 325, Z3 1.9
Move these cars to SSC for consistency if the E36 M3 moves to SSA and E30 M3 moves to SSB.
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Re: 2010 rule change proposals due by 11/18/09
#18 - This request was discussed but received no support
Rulebook Section:
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ix
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Old Rule:
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e46 M3 SSU
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New Rule:
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e46 M3 to SSGT
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Rulebook Section:
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ix
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Old Rule:
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e46 M3 SSU
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New Rule:
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e46 M3 to SSGT
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Re: 2010 rule change proposals due by 11/18/09
#19 - This request was discussed but received no support
Rulebook Section:
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Car Classification
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Old Rule:
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Showroom Stock GT (SSGT)
Porsche 964
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New Rule:
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Showroom Stock A (SSA)
Porsche 964
[If the e36 M3 get\'s moved to SSA, then the 964 (similar power/weight and TT times) should also move. In addition, despite upgrades from the 3.2L version, the 964 actually has worse power/weight than its predecessor (which is running in SSA). Finally, the power/weight and TT times of current (and proposed) SSGT cars including the e46 M3, 370z, Cayman S, and STi are significantly better than those of the early 90\'s 911\'s.]
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Rulebook Section:
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Car Classification
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Old Rule:
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Showroom Stock GT (SSGT)
Porsche 964
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New Rule:
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Showroom Stock A (SSA)
Porsche 964
[If the e36 M3 get\'s moved to SSA, then the 964 (similar power/weight and TT times) should also move. In addition, despite upgrades from the 3.2L version, the 964 actually has worse power/weight than its predecessor (which is running in SSA). Finally, the power/weight and TT times of current (and proposed) SSGT cars including the e46 M3, 370z, Cayman S, and STi are significantly better than those of the early 90\'s 911\'s.]
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Re: 2010 rule change proposals due by 11/18/09
#20 - This request was discussed but received no support
Rulebook Section:
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Showroom stock
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Old Rule:
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Showroom Stock SSB
Nissan Sentra SER SpecV 2002+
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New Rule:
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Showroom Stock SSC
Nissan Sentra SER SpecV 2002+
The Nissan has 17# /hp yet the Mini Cooper can be as little 12.5#/hp and they are booth in SSB plus if the BMW E30 325 gets moved to SSC , the Nissan SER SpecV 2002+ should be moved
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Rulebook Section:
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Showroom stock
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Old Rule:
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Showroom Stock SSB
Nissan Sentra SER SpecV 2002+
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New Rule:
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Showroom Stock SSC
Nissan Sentra SER SpecV 2002+
The Nissan has 17# /hp yet the Mini Cooper can be as little 12.5#/hp and they are booth in SSB plus if the BMW E30 325 gets moved to SSC , the Nissan SER SpecV 2002+ should be moved
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Re: 2010 rule change proposals due by 11/18/09
#21 - This request was approved as written
Rulebook Section:
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VII.E
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Old Rule:
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Drivers and passengers must wear a minimum M2000 (SA2000 recommended) Snell approved safety helmet at all times while on course.
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New Rule:
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Drivers and passengers must wear an M or SA Snell approved safety helmet at all times while on course. M2000 and SA2000 approved helmets will be valid through the end of the 2010 season.
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Rulebook Section:
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VII.E
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Old Rule:
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Drivers and passengers must wear a minimum M2000 (SA2000 recommended) Snell approved safety helmet at all times while on course.
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New Rule:
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Drivers and passengers must wear an M or SA Snell approved safety helmet at all times while on course. M2000 and SA2000 approved helmets will be valid through the end of the 2010 season.
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Re: 2010 rule change proposals due by 11/18/09
#22 - This request was discussed but received no support
Rulebook Section:
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X.3.A.
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Old Rule:
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Any bolt-in anti-sway bar(s), panhard bar, and/or swaybar endlinks may be added, substituted, or subtracted.
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New Rule:
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Any bolt-in anti-sway bar(s), panhard bar, torque arm, trailing arm, and/or swaybar endlinks may be added, substituted, or subtracted.
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Rulebook Section:
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X.3.A.
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Old Rule:
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Any bolt-in anti-sway bar(s), panhard bar, and/or swaybar endlinks may be added, substituted, or subtracted.
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New Rule:
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Any bolt-in anti-sway bar(s), panhard bar, torque arm, trailing arm, and/or swaybar endlinks may be added, substituted, or subtracted.
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