Palmer 2 videos

[Mick]

This is all that I have to contribute.

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[Rotary-Amuse]

Wow... great catch!

It was nice to meet you - sorry about your belt. Glad you caught it before your temps got out of hand

[Mick]

Thanks. In hindsight, I should have gone 2 feet in. It was just dumb luck that I didn't end up in the weeds.

Good meeting you too.

[breakaway500]

Some fancy driving Mick. 5 has been getting greasier by the day.

[Mick]

Here are a couple of laps from that same session.

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[jeffw]

Here's my time trial laps

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[escortracer]

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Two feet in sounds like really good advice

[breakaway500]

Spooky watching your video,Jeff..our lines are identical..except I am a bit more center track thru 12 and at turn in for 13,but same exit point.(and,you're a lot smoother..) I'm down to 5 shifts,which worked out very well. Thanks for the input.. I'm still trying to figure out where you hide the nitrous button...

[TroyV]

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I need to take a lesson from someone on how best to sync using race render.

This TT is a lot less fidgity than the last one. Three of my tires were corded during this video.

[ED9man]

I'd usually post a video, but I'll use this space to recommend against using a Replay XD mini as your track camera.

[Mick]

Two feet in sounds like really good advice

That's a bummer.

[blindsidefive0]

Here's my TT lap - a lot of little mistakes and a couple big ones.

Turn 1 - Entry from the wall to the braking zone of T1 is OK. Overall the braking is a tick too deep. I struggle just a bit to nail the apex because I'm not clean on the throttle with the car 100% settled mid-corner. I need to both slow the car down another mph or so and release the brake a shade earlier to commit to WOT and the proper line. Not the world's best exit, but it's OK.

Turn 2 - Monster mistake: rushed it. Ego > skill. I thought I could turn it in a little early with a snap off the throttle at 90+ to get the right rotation, but it washes, I lose my apex angle, and I'm forced to lift before returning to the throttle. Mid-corner lift/return on the throttle is probably 2 tenths lost forever. Nailing it in practice a few times is not the same as getting it to stick on-demand in a TT - was headed for disaster w/o the lift.

Turn 3 - looks like I'm not quite as tight on the apex as I should be (off maybe a foot); probably a brain fart thinking about T4. Lazy.

Turn 4 - braking is fine with a long enough trail, after that is weak. Anonymous benefactor, thanks for the rocks at the apex - I should have just powered through these, not sure why I didn't...DBAP. By not getting back on the power enough through the debris, I don't continue to rotate the car around the right edge of the track for a proper entry into T5. I should be 1/2 a car width further to track-right and should be deeper into the power to shift more weight rearward to prepare for the hard snap lift into T5.

Turn 5 - entry isn't nearly sharp enough. The car should be further to the right (see note above about continuing to rotate car around right side of track to line up T5). I needed more space between vehicle and apex before turn-in, and I needed to snap the wheel harder with a more aggressive initial lift (if I'm not on the gas hard enough, the lift doesn't do anything because there's no weight to shift from rear-to-front). Goal is to hang left tires just inside of the newly grated gripless apex pavement, on/partially inside the white line - I don't exactly get there. Mid-corner/exit are OK given the lame entry.

Turn 6 - looking at the video/data, I shouldn't have gone to 4th. In the cooler weather it made a little more sense...meh. The rest is about what I'm trying to do - since there's no exit, this is a fast in/fast middle corner.

Turn 7 - this is one of my better entries: just along/inside the centerline with a long trail to get the nose pointed into "Mick's pocket"...and then I totally F it up by getting on the power too early/abruptly. A smoother application of the power and/or another tenth or two of neutral throttle and the exit would have stuck without the lift - maybe next time...another couple tenths lost.

Turn 8 - OK

Turn 9 - This turn is hard to nail, depending on approach - mediocre the entire way through for me. I needed to brake later and go half a car width deeper. With a later brake I may have been able to maintain a longer trail to better rotate the car mid-corner for the proper apex angle. Instead, I'm a stuck in no-man's land for a second: no inputs with insufficient rotation and a less than ideal apex angle. I try to "cheat" by going to WOT abruptly to induce some rotation around the apex - it manages to salvage some of the exit, but ideally I'm looking for a smoother transition to throttle another car length before the apex.

Turn 10 - the first good turn in the entire lap. The hard lift after turn-in induces about the right slip to hit the apex while getting back on the power. The angle for T11 isn't bad.

Turn 11 - I needed a little bit more of a tap on the brake to get the car to stick to the inner white line - more grip inside. Not a bad run through 11, but another 6-12" inside would have been faster...not sure how much.

Turn 12 - Not bad, but slightly docile. I could have used a touch later/more brake with left wheel input to begin to spin the car around the apex. Apex through exit is good...all 3' of it.

Turn 13/14 - woohoo, it stuck WOT! This isn't a given for me, so at least I ended the lap on a decent note.

Comments/critiques welcome.

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[Mick]

That was a sick lap and the fact that you're fighting for 10ths or 100ths per corner is telling.

[breakaway500]

"...I thought I could turn it in a little early with a snap off the throttle at 90+ to get the right rotation"

As I watched that...narrated...all I could think of is....if I tried that in the Atom....I'd be backwards at 90+. Seriously. I don't have that kind of control.

Great video..nice angle..I turned up the volume. That's music! I need to watch it again...

Debris tight in 4 also made me alter my line at TT. Not to my liking..but better than hitting the pointy rocks with the thin sticky rubber balloons..

Yep..7...Micks pocket. I do a teardrop into the pocket when I get it right..it is magic.

9 is a favorite corner..I do it Jeff W style.

10 is fun too.

12-13-14 I think of as a single "combo" turn..lots of ways work..but too deep in 12 isn't one of them.

Tire pressures did jump 4-5psi from cold..more as the day wore on.Did make things loose! I wonder if I went to nitrogen..hmm. How many people use nitrogen.. is it not worth the effort? My car is sensitive to pressures. I went out one session with the front left 10psi high and pushed badly through 4 and exit of nine.. I didn't get distracted checking pressures after that..

Time for another lap! Whiskey HIl thrills!

[djsteviec]

Here is a video of my L/F brake line letting go, into Turn 4.

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Then limped it in trying to stay off line.

Doesn't look nearly as scary as it feels!

I can't upload my TT for some reason right now? I will add that soon.