In-car Audio

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Re: In-car Audio

Post by naschmitz » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:32 pm

WillM wrote:How funny that someone would call-out the "rolling shutter" effect that some cameras with CMOS image sensors exhibit.

The rolling-shutter effect described above happens almost exclusively when the in-car footage is shot at slower than 60fps rates.
That might be the problem with the Canon Vixia HF200. The choices are 60 fps interlaced and 30fps progressive. No matter what shutter speed, image stabilization setting, or exposure programming, the Canon HF200 just isn't suitable for motorsports.

I might have to try one of those cheap Aipteks with the external mic input next.
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Re: In-car Audio

Post by WillM » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:37 am

This was shot on my Aiptek Action-HD 1080p, 60fps.

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Re: In-car Audio

Post by TroyV » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:44 am

Bert, I can bring my Aiptek tomorrow if you like.....assuming I remember it. I'm pretty sure I have the same one that Will has.
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Re: In-car Audio

Post by naschmitz » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:48 am

TroyV wrote:Bert, I can bring my Aiptek tomorrow if you like.....assuming I remember it. I'm pretty sure I have the same one that Will has.
Troy,

I'd like to see if it works with the external mic I am using. That would be good to know before I drop another $150!

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Re: In-car Audio

Post by TroyV » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:00 pm



This was the last thing I did with it...of course the audio is horrible.. I just mounted it and drove..
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Re: In-car Audio

Post by naschmitz » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:04 pm

TroyV wrote:

This was the last thing I did with it...of course the audio is horrible.. I just mounted it and drove..
Well, if my mic works, we can fix up your audio for $29.99!
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Re: In-car Audio

Post by WillM » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:37 am

Just reviewed some of my files. I had the resolutions wrong.

The Aipteks shoot 1080P @ 30fps, and 720P @ 60fps.

720P @ 60fps is the best choice to reduce/eliminate the rolling shutter effect.
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Re: In-car Audio

Post by naschmitz » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:21 pm

WillM wrote:Just reviewed some of my files. I had the resolutions wrong.

The Aipteks shoot 1080P @ 30fps, and 720P @ 60fps.

720P @ 60fps is the best choice to reduce/eliminate the rolling shutter effect.
Will

I tried plugging my mic into Troy's Aiptek and all it did was say "No Video." Is there some menu command you have to run to change the A/V input jack into a mic in? Or do the new Aiptek HDs have a seperate mic-in jack?

Anyways, here is a vid using the Vio POV taken yesterday at Devens: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z50lf2uUML0 The mic is just laying inside the rear storage bin -- I haven't even clamped it to anything. It does not pick up any cockpit conversations so in that sense all my videos using this system will be family friendly.

Troy got FTD by the way.

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Re: In-car Audio

Post by Mick » Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:50 pm

Looks great.
..that track map looks like the Nurburgring

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Re: In-car Audio

Post by WillM » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:33 pm

Bert,

Only the newest AIptek camcorders feature a mic input (model Action-HD GVS). Sounds like Troy has an Action-HD camera (not the 'GVS' model), which does not have a specific mic input. The A/V jack on the plain-old Action-HD camcorder (same as the camcorder I have) is specifically for a combination audio/video input at line-levels, and cannot accept a microphone. You cannot plug in just a microphone to this port and have the camera still shoot video. The A/V port completely does away with the camera function and makes the Action-HD act like a VCR.

Be careful what you plug into that port, as Aiptek uses a different pin-out than Sony/Panasonic/etc., so you cannot use any A/V or HD adapters other than the ones supplied with the Aiptek camera.
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Re: In-car Audio

Post by naschmitz » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:03 pm

Thanks, Will. Your posts have been very helpful!
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Post by naschmitz » Wed May 05, 2010 7:52 pm

Here is my first use of this video system on a high speed track:
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Re: In-car Audio

Post by paultg » Wed May 05, 2010 8:28 pm

naschmitz wrote:Here is my first use of this video system on a high speed track:
That is very nice! Nice setup Bert, looked like a good lap too!
WillM wrote: Only the newest AIptek camcorders feature a mic input (model Action-HD GVS).
Will, have you ever mounted your camera back further in the car, like on a harness bar? If so, did the camera have any white balance issues? My GoPro camera will wash out an autox course if I try to mount it far back in the car. Do you know if a wide angle lens can be added to your Alptex? I'm looking into getting a camera like this, but mine will be mounted on a bolt in harness bar or main hoop (upside down) in my car. I'd like to see my hands as well as the course so I was thinking a wide angle lens might help. Any suggestions is much appreciated.
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Re: In-car Audio

Post by CalypsoBean » Thu May 06, 2010 1:06 pm

I had good luck with my GoPro at Monticello, mounted underneath my front bumper. Sounds was even good, caught the engine very well with almost no wind noise.

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Re: In-car Audio

Post by John F » Fri May 07, 2010 3:20 pm

I have the older Aiptek (non HD) and use a bullet camera mounted to the headrest of the passemger seat. The A/V in cable has hook-ups for two mics and the bullet camera. I don't have any issues at all with white out or color shift, maybe because I don't have a top. It seems to show everything I do wrong with clarity :roll:
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